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02-19-2023, 03:43 PM
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Fumoto oil drain valve - good idea ? bad idea?
I am coming up to a scheduled oil change and ,after looking u tube posts , I'm wondering if it would make sense to install one when I do it. They appear to make an oil change easier as well as less messy. The one thing that has me concerned is how safe they are ( do they open up resulting in oil loss etc
Appreciate hearing from people who've put these in . The good ,the bad and brands they've used
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02-19-2023, 04:00 PM
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I installed one after my first oil change and that was 18k miles ago and 27 states. Have not it open up or be an issue since I installed it. And yes it is easier and less messy for doing oil changes.
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02-19-2023, 04:07 PM
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The only "bad" I've read is it's not desirable if drain plug is located in a position that would point the valve straight down and make it vulnerable to damage from road debris or bottoming out. Of course that's logical.
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02-19-2023, 04:11 PM
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I have one and they work amazing. Highly Recommend
bought on Amazon.ca
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02-19-2023, 04:12 PM
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I looked into installing one on my Mustang when I bought it back in 2014. I ended up passing because while I like the simplicity of just flipping a lever, my research suggested that it brought new issues and I didn't like the trade off.
Main issues:
- The drain hole in the valve is significantly smaller than the factory drain hole in the pan. Oil drains *much* slower. This is slightly offset by the fact that you can attach a hose to the Fumoto valve and have more control over the waste oil as it's draining.
- The drain hole passes through the center of the valve assembly, and the valve protrudes somewhat into the oil pan, leaving 1/2 inch or more of undrained oil. Only the oil above that hole is going to be drained. Depending on the size and shape of your oil pan, this can leave a significant amount of old oil, which will then mix with the fresh oil. On the Mustang Coyote engines, this amounts to almost a full quart.
For me, the added time, combined with the idea of mixing 1qt of dirty oil with 6qts of clean oil on every change, made it a non-starter.
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02-19-2023, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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Try FEMCO at femco.com Mine works great, they have a brass cap on the valve that you remove and screw a hose on which opens the valve and drains. I do my oil changes with the oil hot and drain it into an empty 5gal oil pail no spills or splashes. Makes oil changes a lot less messy and my truck uses 14 litres of oil. You can order it by phone and they ship it from Manitoba Canada so no funny money exchange.
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02-19-2023, 04:31 PM
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I used one for years.
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02-19-2023, 04:34 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
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SORRY my mistake the oil valve is from No Spill Systems Winipeg Manitoba! Not a FEMCO made and sold in Canada eh!! You can phone them for the exact fit for your vehicle. Nospillsystems.com
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02-19-2023, 05:17 PM
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I like things that make tasks easier. The drain plug that came with the engine isn't a chore to remove and replace so I think I'll just stay with the old drain plug.
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02-19-2023, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Montrose, Colorado
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The factory drain plug on my wife's Subaru Outback has a "tappered" head. You have to get the socket prefectly flush all the way onto the shoulder of the nut before applying torque or you instantly strip the head of the nut. I bought the Fumoto drain plug to solve that.
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02-19-2023, 07:07 PM
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02-19-2023, 07:11 PM
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I’ve been putting them on every vehicle for 15 years. Unless I’m changing the oil filter I can do drip less oil changes with it.
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02-19-2023, 08:40 PM
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Location: Central Wyoming
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When would you change the oil without changing the filter?
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02-19-2023, 08:56 PM
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I have a skid plate so the valve with the nipple and extension hose makes for a clean oil change. They do sell a locking clip if you are worried but I've had mine for 18 years without a problem.
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02-20-2023, 12:12 AM
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Mine came with a locking clip that prevents accidental openeing
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02-20-2023, 08:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WY Husker Fan
When would you change the oil without changing the filter?
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Since the discussion here is about the Georgetown (Ford), you would change the filter at each scheduled oil change. However, the concept of skipping filter changes is not unheard of. I have three Honda vehicles that call for an oil filter change every other oil change.
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02-20-2023, 10:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WY Husker Fan
When would you change the oil without changing the filter?
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I use Mobil 1 20,000 mile oil filters.
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02-20-2023, 11:35 AM
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I have been using a finger touch drain valve on my 2008, Ram from the first oil change I did in 2009. Dealer did the first one free. I have been off road with this style of valve and never had an issue with the valve failing. The valve points straight down on my Cummins engine oil pan but the finger release is 90 deg's to the pan. The lever has to be pushed to release it from the detent position.
Now if you are concerned about a failure of this style of valve, there is another make which could work for you.
It is a Femco drain valve and tube, see their site which is attached for your review. https://www.femco.com/
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02-20-2023, 11:56 AM
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I put one on my cummins motor 40K miles ago. First oil change was a mess. I had a large enough drain pan to hold the 3 gallons of oil, but it drained out the stock hole so fast, it splashed all over. With the fumoto valve, I can drain directly into my 1 gallon recycle containers without a single wayward drip. Nice thing is I can leave the last gallon container under there for as long as I want to get almost all of the oil to drain from the upper engine areas. I would put one on in a heartbeat, should I get another truck.
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02-20-2023, 02:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomore9-5
I am coming up to a scheduled oil change and ,after looking u tube posts , I'm wondering if it would make sense to install one when I do it. They appear to make an oil change easier as well as less messy. The one thing that has me concerned is how safe they are ( do they open up resulting in oil loss etc
Appreciate hearing from people who've put these in . The good ,the bad and brands they've used
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Thanks to all who answered and as expected everyone has a different opinion. All boils down to convienence vs possible damage . Gives me something to think about
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