Went to the fall RV show today. Can't say I was realy impressed with much. Only new fiver I saw that I liked even a little was the Cardinal. Some of the features I thought were really nice. Others I thought were cheap and tacky. Would I spend 75K for a new one? No way! In fact after seeing what we did I think my 2005 Cedar reek is a great unit. While the dark interiors were luxurious looking I think they would be really dark and drab in a really shady NF camp ground on a dreary day.