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01-23-2021, 10:00 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 6
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Purchasing TT. Need your advice!
Good morning everyone! Thanks for any help you may provide. We are looking at purchasing a 2021 Keystone Cougar 34tsb. We have a 2016 FR Wildwood 26tbss that we will be selling outright. Ive included a link of the TT we are looking at. My questions are this. The listed MSRP is $55,785. I was told last time that we bought to take 30% off that price and stand firm. This will be a cash transaction btw. Still true? Also, another camper told the wife about a "RV Wholesale Club". We sent the info to them and they came back with $38,870 plus $250 doc, $599 pre delivery and 100 point walkthru, etc. Has anyone used this type of service? Any bad reviews on this model? It just has the floorplan that the wife likes. We will continue to look if this is not what we should buy. Thank you again!
https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetail...-40k-GR1842306
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01-23-2021, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Eastern Ontario
Posts: 4,163
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Nice Trailer. The one negative for me, is that when the slides are in, it seems that you don't have access to the kitchen at all.
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2011 Rockwood 8319SS with ProPride 3P hitch/GoodYear Marathons/TST TPMS 507
2019 F350 Ruby Red 6.7l diesel 3.31 axle electronic locker
Yamaha 3000iseb generator:Progressive Ind. EMS-HW30C : Eastern Ontario
Nights Camped: 2014 (18) 2015 (18) 2016 (36) 2017 (32) 2018 (42) 2019 (28) 2020 (35)
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01-23-2021, 01:31 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
Posts: 31,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ethansdad
Good morning everyone! Thanks for any help you may provide. We are looking at purchasing a 2021 Keystone Cougar 34tsb. We have a 2016 FR Wildwood 26tbss that we will be selling outright. Ive included a link of the TT we are looking at. My questions are this. The listed MSRP is $55,785. I was told last time that we bought to take 30% off that price and stand firm. This will be a cash transaction btw. Still true? Also, another camper told the wife about a "RV Wholesale Club". We sent the info to them and they came back with $38,870 plus $250 doc, $599 pre delivery and 100 point walkthru, etc. Has anyone used this type of service? Any bad reviews on this model? It just has the floorplan that the wife likes. We will continue to look if this is not what we should buy. Thank you again!
https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetail...-40k-GR1842306
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Since the Keystone Cougar is not a Forest River product, you may not get many reviews.
One thing you will get, is statements not to buy from Camping World.
As far as the RV Wholesale Club, I would NEVER pay for a pre-delivery fee. The dealer gets paid by the manufacturer to do that.
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4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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01-24-2021, 10:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wisconsin
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Welcome from Wisconsin. I second the statement above "not to buy from Camping World." Shop around if you can.
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01-24-2021, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 3,396
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Whenever you get a price for comparison purposes, tell them you want one number. No delivery, setup, walk through, or documentation fees. One price.
I third the statement about avoiding Camping World. When I requested a quote from Camping World in Indiana, they insisted on charging 3% more for a cash sale because they wouldn’t get the loan kickback from the finance company. Plus, they wanted to charge over $1000 to have the RV driven less than 200 miles from the factory to the dealer. All that plus Camping World sales and service is horrible.
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01-24-2021, 12:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Hills of Northwestern PA
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Www.RV trader.com
Check real pricing there.
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01-24-2021, 01:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Alaska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiscampsin
Welcome from Wisconsin. I second the statement above "not to buy from Camping World." Shop around if you can.
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I was at one yesterday and the salesman told me the only number they look at when selling a trailer is the tow rating, because that's what their service department manager told them. He was not very happy when I schooled him on the other numbers, such as payload capacity, Gross Combined Vehicle Weight, and rear axle capacity. They are snakes that will sell you a trailer way beyond your tow vehicle's capacity.
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01-24-2021, 02:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Right Half of OR
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We tried dealing with Camping World two different times. By the end of the negotiations we felt like making the sale was more important to them than helping the customer get the right rig. We told them what we were looking for; they told us what we really wanted. When we disagreed the subtle demeaning and belittling began. One service guy came clean when alone pointing us to another dealership. They were much more helpful and down to earth. Sales and discounts are not the whole story in RV's.
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2020 R-POD 195 HRE
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01-24-2021, 03:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Franklin County, MO
Posts: 2,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ethansdad
Good morning everyone! Thanks for any help you may provide. We are looking at purchasing a 2021 Keystone Cougar 34tsb. We have a 2016 FR Wildwood 26tbss that we will be selling outright. Ive included a link of the TT we are looking at. My questions are this. The listed MSRP is $55,785. I was told last time that we bought to take 30% off that price and stand firm. This will be a cash transaction btw. Still true? Also, another camper told the wife about a "RV Wholesale Club". We sent the info to them and they came back with $38,870 plus $250 doc, $599 pre delivery and 100 point walkthru, etc. Has anyone used this type of service? Any bad reviews on this model? It just has the floorplan that the wife likes. We will continue to look if this is not what we should buy. Thank you again!
https://rv.campingworld.com/rvdetail...-40k-GR1842306
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Good luck with the new Keystone, but you might get better response if you post your inquiry on a Keystone forum, rather than the Forest River forum.
I also see your link to Camping World. I've never purchased from them, but the forums seem to have a lot of stories about CW's lack of service after the sale.
Good luck, whatever you decide to do.
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and Sophie, the little white dog
2017 Columbus 320RSC
2021 Chevy Silverado 3500HD DRW 4X4 Duramax
“It's not how old you are, it's how you are old.” ― Jules Renard
"It's not the years...it's the mileage." - Indiana Jones
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01-24-2021, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Western AZ
Posts: 2,404
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Don't worry too much about the negative things said about your choice. CW (as bad as they are) probably want around 39 for the rig. Happy hunting.
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01-24-2021, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,484
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I don't like dealers that much but have bought two vehicles from dealers in the last year. I bought a Lexus 430 SC which is hard car to find. I negotiated a fair price with the dealer in Reno and just had to pay the $500 "documentation fee."
I bought a TT from a local dealer near Carson City. I was planning to travel to buy an Outdoors RV up to Washington. I found a good Rockwood near home for a fair price and just had to pay the $300 documentation fee.
RVs depreciate more than any consumer good I can think of. I would never buy a new one for that reason, but you are on the right track discounting their asking price 30%.
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01-24-2021, 06:29 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Gadsden, AL
Posts: 67
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"I know a guy"...that said CW refused to make him a cash sale. Said they were not going to make any money on the sale. If true, they are worse than car salesman...
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01-24-2021, 07:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Northern Foothils CA
Posts: 1,216
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There are continuous negative stories about Camping World. I have never tried to purchase from them but their service and parts departments have lived up to their negative reputation.
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2021 2205S Rockwood Minilite
2019 F 150 Lariat 3.5 Eco Fx4 Max Tow
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01-24-2021, 07:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Summit Township
Posts: 829
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Most replies are about not being fans of CW. I have no opinion on them. As for the 30% less than invoice, in todays market more of the power is with the dealer. If RV sales continue as they did last year there may be those willing to pay more. Shop around for sure. Smaller family owned dealerships might offer the better pricing along with service, that is what we have found. We had a Keystone before the Hemisphere. Was a Springdale bunkhouse. No issues what so ever and build quality was very good. Good Luck
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01-25-2021, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 1,049
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From my CampingWorld experiences, it really seems to depend on the dealership whether its satisfactory or not. You really need to do your homework and know specifically what you're looking for BEFORE buying an RV, no matter where you go. There are tons of horror stories on this forum with dealers other than CW.
I did some homework on the FR 37FLH before settling on that model and buying it from a CW in VA last year. I wouldn't buy from my local CW because of past issues with their service department, so I was willing to drive long distance to get it.
I was able to negotiate a much better deal with them than from an RVTrader independent FR dealer. That may be because of the high volume of RV's they sell at this particular dealership. The buying and PDI experience was actually not bad and everything went pretty smoothly, and I've not had any problems getting help from their service department. Maybe I bought and called for service during the right moon phases, who knows, or because this dealership was a bit better organized than others.
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01-28-2021, 05:55 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Southcoast Massachusetts
Posts: 34
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I just put a deposit on a Apex 265RBSS. I got 28% off. I knew about the 30% off thing going in. I tried to get them down a little more, but they declined. Since the market is hot right now I was happy with the 28%.
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01-31-2021, 05:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: NC
Posts: 260
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We had quite the opposite from CW. They listened to our need and never ever steered us toward anything other than what was on our checklist.
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I am just a spoke in a broken wheel......
Tow vehicle: 2020 Ford F-250 4WD Super Duty 7.3 XLT FX4 Crew
TT: 2021 Grey Wolf 26 DBH
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02-01-2021, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Berkley, MI
Posts: 254
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I'd shop around. I prefer to purchase from a dealer that is local to me, or at least local to where the trailer might be, for warranty purposes.
However, I did purchase from a dealer that is about 3.5 hours away recently. I've been pleased with the service I received for most part, but when its a little thing that goes wrong or you want them to look it....well that 3.5 hour trip is a lot more of a pain than you realize.
I also store in a storage unit that is 30-40 min further away from me (and from the dealer) so it is something to consider.
I've been able to convince them that I can't let it sit there for weeks on end while they decide when they will make repairs, unless I combine that with a trip on that side of the state. So now, when I make an appointment, its either getting taking care of that day or i'm picking it up on the way to the next camping trip. I only have one or two issues to correct and it should be good for awhile, and we have agreed to take care of it right after the weather dies down, before they start selling like crazy again.
But they are a small mom and pop type of place, so I understand how busy it can get.
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02-01-2021, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 8,935
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Sounds like you know what you want. That is the hard part! Here is we have done successfully several times: shop the USA for the best price from a dealer, any dealer. I just buy from whomever has the best price and then I will never see them again. I use independent service (preapproved of course) for all warranty work. I will never go back to any dealer for any service unless I need storage for my RV for several months 
Has worked well for us and we get better service than we ever got from a dealer. And CW is no better or worse than any other dealer, there are bad ones and good ones, but they are everywhere with more stock than most.
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2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
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