No Kitchen or Living room lights

[cousin01]

2011 Solera

The lights that operate off of the central control panel marked Kitchen and Living Room do not function. I have tried the switches on the fixtures with the control switch in both on and off positions.

Checked for 12 V on both sides of all fuses in the converter.

Pulled control panel and have 12 votls at the common wire tying the Kitchen and Living Room switches together.

Tested Kitchen switch and it appears to open/close properly.

Any Ideas? Is there another switch somewhere I am missing?

Are the grounds for ALL of these fixtures tied together and possibly loose? Where would that tie point be?

Is there a coach wiring diagram available?

[Iggy]

Do you have 12 volts any place in the rig?
Bathroom lights?

It just may be a wire came loose at the panel fuse.
Don't forget that an open ground wire will do the same.

Hope this helps a little

[cousin01]

ALL other 12 v functions fine. Even have 12 volts to the switches.

[bclemens]

could all those bulbs have burned out? Did it suddenly happen?

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by bclemens

could all those bulbs have burned out? Did it suddenly happen?

My thought to.....
But that would be crazy right?
Then again..........

[AquaMan]

Possible surge through the lights could have blown all the bulbs. Pull them out and test bulb and/or socket for power

[awwall]

Since you have 12 volts at the switch, you may have lost the ground. Can you check from a light fixture to a chassis ground and see if you have 12 volts? If you do, you have either blown bulbs or have lost the ground to the fixtures.

[cousin01]

I will check bulbs and see if I have a ground FROM the fixture to chassis.

Guess there is no overall wiring diagram available, right?

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by cousin01

I will check bulbs and see if I have a ground FROM the fixture to chassis.

Guess there is no overall wiring diagram available, right?

You are correct ...... no wiring diagram available .


turbs

[puff]

I would be checking for power and grounds at each fixture, like the rest said. Short of that is it possible that the on/off switches were turned off on the fixture itself..?

I might even pull the light fixture off the ceiling and check the wires coming in.

[cousin01]

OK. so today I decided to try to troubleshoot these lights.

I tried to drop the dual fixture nearest to the control panel, planning to check for a ground and to see if all wire nuts were in place, etc.

When I remove the screws holding the fixture to the ceiling it would not drop down out of the ceiling. Its as though it's cable tied up tight inside.

I can see a panel behind the bulb that looks like it might access the connections, but not wanting the destroy anything I stopped short of prying it off.

Anyone been into these fixtures to know how they are wired? What is holding it up so tight to the ceiling?

[Taylorgso]

There are spring tabs holding the fixture in the ceiling. If you pull hard enough, it will come out. (One of the springs may pop off, but they're easy to replace).

[cousin01]

Thanks for the info on dropping the light fixture.

turns out in my model, there are simply three or four screws holding the fixture to the ceiling. I overlooked the ones inside the rim of the fixture.

Once all screws are removed, the fixture drops down easily - no clips on my model - and the panel behind the bulb is merely a heat shield - no access to the wiring.

On to the original problem.

Once I dropped one of the fixtures the lights began to work. I'm guessing a semi-loose ground somewhere behind the the control panel on the wall.

Thanks to those that responded.

More later.

[dswiss]

I had one light that didn't work. turned out it was a defective bulb (make sure you replace it with one you know works because you can't tell by just looking for a 'burnt out' bulb)

[cousin01]

Intermittent problems,,,the worst.

OK, so at my post I mentioned that the lights began to work again after merely dropping a couple of the fixtures from the ceiling. I'm guessing that this pulled on the wires enough to cause it to make contact.

I really need to know what the wiring behind the control panel looks like.

Any help here FR?

[cousin01]

Intermittent problems,,,the worst.

OK, so at my post I mentioned that the lights began to work again after merely dropping a couple of the fixtures from the ceiling. I'm guessing that this pulled on the wires enough to cause it to make contact.

After a day on the road, the lights no longer work. The "living room" lights and the 'kitchen" lights do not work. All other 12 volt items work correctly.

I really need to know what the wiring behind the control panel looks like. I know the LR and K switches share a 12 volt feed, but where are the grounds tied?

Any help here FR?

[lkin]

I am having the same problem with my 3121ds. I will be very interested in the fix!. I bought mine new in november, so it is under warranty. If I can get it fixed, I will let you know what they did.

[2012WhiteSolera]

Ikin, what are 3121d's. Cousin, I know forum memper Papap helped me out with a basic wiring diagram for a 24s. Look up his posts and see if he can help out.

[lkin]

Sorry, I have a forester model 3121DS.

[cousin01]

Lights have been working fine for a couple of months. I'm guessing a loose ground wire since both kitchen and or circuits went dead. Looks to be an intermittent problem. Without knowing where the grounds are tied together hard to know where to look for the loose connection