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Old 03-04-2019, 02:46 PM   #1
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Installing motorized tongue jack

When I bought my toy hauler it came with a handcrank tongue jack, I want to change to a motorized tongue jack. Looking for information. Wondering if a 3500 pound tongue jack would work on my toy hauler? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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I just had to replace my tongue jack because the Leg got bent somehow. 3500 works perfectly on my 265RLDS Surveyor. (pounds reflect how much it can lift so a 3500 lb will work on trailers up to 7000 lbs total)
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When I bought my toy hauler it came with a handcrank tongue jack, I want to change to a motorized tongue jack. Looking for information. Wondering if a 3500 pound tongue jack would work on my toy hauler? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Recognize that if you are using a weight distribution hitch (WDH) you are also lifting the rear of the tow vehicle in conjunction with the trailer tongue weight. I would purchase at least a 5000 lb. jack to have reserve capacity. The difference in price of a lesser weight rating is minimal. Though I am prohibited from publishing the brand/source of a 5000 lb. jack, by apparent forum rules, I know of a source of a top brand for $226.00 and no sales tax. Search the internet!
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I am prohibited from publishing the brand/source of a 5000 lb. jack, by apparent forum rules
Huh? Since when?

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I’m confused, what would having a weight distribution hitch have to do with the weight of the tongue of my trailer? Why would I be lifting the weight of my truck as well?
My trailer only totals 5800 pounds.
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He means using the tongue jack to lift the trailer & tow vehicle to ease setting the bars in their tow position at hitching or unhitching. I bent mine, installed the 3500 lb one in an hour and then used it to lift both the trailer and my RAM to unhitch. Worked perfect
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Well maybe I’m doing something wrong but that is not how I hitch and Iunhitch. I ease my trailer down till it kisses the ball on the tow vehicle then I install my weight distribution bars and my anti-sway bar then I raise the jack leg the rest of the way.
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You are not doing anything wrong and if it works for you great. Some folks use the jack to lift up on the trailer and tow vehicle to make setting the bars easier. Either way works. Based on how you hitch up I would go with the jack you were considering. JMHO
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Old 03-04-2019, 05:13 PM   #9
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Cool. I really like the bulldog jacks that come with a seven way connector, that plugs into my truck for power. That way no kids can come around and run my battery down playing with the Jack, and if for some reason my batteries are dead they will not be dead on the tow vehicle.
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Cool. I really like the bulldog jacks that come with a seven way connector, that plugs into my truck for power. That way no kids can come around and run my battery down playing with the Jack, and if for some reason my batteries are dead they will not be dead on the tow vehicle.
Install a battery disconnect will solve that issue. I did.
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I was just trying to let you know why someone else thought you needed a 5000 lb tongue jack. Kind of like some people think you need a Semi tractor to pull a 1000 lb tent trailer. LOL
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Jack needs to be rated high enough to match the tung weight plus the weight of the rear end of the truck as you lift it to set your distribution bars. 5,000 pounds should be more than enough.
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I was just trying to let you know why someone else thought you needed a 5000 lb tongue jack. Kind of like some people think you need a Semi tractor to pull a 1000 lb tent trailer. LOL

Hey, now. My semi tractor hauls my tent just fine, though I did pop one of the air bags once.
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When I bought my toy hauler it came with a handcrank tongue jack, I want to change to a motorized tongue jack. Looking for information. Wondering if a 3500 pound tongue jack would work on my toy hauler? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
What's the weight rating on the hand-crank jack? That should be enough. Of course, more is better. Here's why.

My PUP came with a 1500 # tongue jack to handle its 500 # tongue weight. I swapped up to a 2000 # tongue jack to better handle the lateral loads associated with lakeside setup on slopes. Whether using Anderson style levelers or a giant stepped wedge, I discovered that there's always a bit of sideways movement at the tongue when I unhitch. There's ALWAYS an inch or more of fore-and-aft of slop between tires and wheel chocks no matter how carefully placed--if for no other reason than the tires will distort slightly against even god's own wheel chock.

The stiffer, stronger jack leg handles that with ease, but my factory original jack was kind of a wet noodle - it scared me more than once. For the same reason, I'd recommend up-sizing the jack rating since you have a toy hauler and are likely to be in rough terrain if you go boondocking very often. When boondocking or on sloped sites in RV parks, it's not the lift capacity that matters as much as the lateral strength of the jack leg when subjected to side-to-side or front-to-rear loads. And the more extended the jack is, the weaker it is. Not to mention the fore-and-aft forces the jack must withstand when loading and unloading toys. Supersize it.

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P.S. When unhitching on a side slope, always, Always, ALWAYS stand on the uphill side of the hitch just in case the feces hits the fan blades.
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Well maybe I’m doing something wrong but that is not how I hitch and Iunhitch. I ease my trailer down till it kisses the ball on the tow vehicle then I install my weight distribution bars and my anti-sway bar then I raise the jack leg the rest of the way.
Your method would not provide enough weight distribution for my previous TTs. I always used the electric jack to raise the hitched coupler (trailer tongue and back end of the truck) several inches in order to be able to set the bars of my Equalizer 4 point hitch onto the L brackets. I had to raise it well above the height at which the tongue just “kissed” the ball. Are you sure you’re WDH is setup properly?
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If you have a pickup you might consider installing it with the switch to the side. This may allow enough room to lower the tail gate completely.
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You are not doing anything wrong and if it works for you great. Some folks use the jack to lift up on the trailer and tow vehicle to make setting the bars easier. Either way works. Based on how you hitch up I would go with the jack you were considering. JMHO
If the OP can hookup and unhook the bars at the "rest" position there can't be that much weight on them once the TW hits the ball.
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Good to know about the bulldog wiring set up. I dropped a safety chain over the tongue when unhooking one time. It came down just right to pull the battery wire loose from the jack at it's insertion point. From there, stripped out the plastic ratchet head of my Harbor Freight socket wrench turning the manual riser nut. Now I am more careful, have better tools, a more complete emergency kit and a smaller TT without need for an electric jack.... but if I ever need one.... :-)
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When I bought my toy hauler it came with a handcrank tongue jack, I want to change to a motorized tongue jack. Looking for information. Wondering if a 3500 pound tongue jack would work on my toy hauler? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
I just bought a husky brute 4500 going to install today for my TH with 1150 TW . did a search and it was between the bull dog and husky and husky won out . bigger is better . since the jack won't work as hard
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