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06-10-2021, 07:29 AM
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14 Billion in back orders for RV company!!!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news...cid=entnewsntp
If quality, craftsmanship and materials were an issue all these years for RV's, I would hate to be one of the people that receives one of these back ordered units. These units are going to be held together by glue and duct tape.
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06-10-2021, 07:36 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
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The same could be said about cars and trucks. There are thousands of them parked all over our state waiting for this or that circuit board. These were pushed out the door and parked. Quality control is pretty much on the far back burner. It's all about numbers- how many rolled out the back door- even tho they are not tested and can't be sold as is...
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2017 Nissan Titan 5.6L King cab 4wd
2016 Evergreen Everlite 242RBS
29' empty nest model. Blue Ox WD hitch
(1 queen bed, large main cabin and huge bathroom)
Camping days 2010-53, 2011-47, 2012-41, 2013-41, 2014-31, 2015-40, 2016-44, 2017-63, 2018-75, 2019-32, 2020-41, 2021-49, 2022-43, 2023-66
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06-10-2021, 07:53 AM
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Kanadian Kamper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KyDan
The same could be said about cars and trucks. There are thousands of them parked all over our state waiting for this or that circuit board. These were pushed out the door and parked. Quality control is pretty much on the far back burner. It's all about numbers- how many rolled out the back door- even tho they are not tested and can't be sold as is...
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I’ve been telling people……
In the years to come, conversations might get around to telling someone what year their car, truck, motorhome or whatever is.
If they answer “2021”.
I’ll be saying…….”So you’re the one!”
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2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD, nicely modified and carried by a 2017 Ford E450 Sport
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06-10-2021, 08:01 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
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Dan & Rita D
2017 Nissan Titan 5.6L King cab 4wd
2016 Evergreen Everlite 242RBS
29' empty nest model. Blue Ox WD hitch
(1 queen bed, large main cabin and huge bathroom)
Camping days 2010-53, 2011-47, 2012-41, 2013-41, 2014-31, 2015-40, 2016-44, 2017-63, 2018-75, 2019-32, 2020-41, 2021-49, 2022-43, 2023-66
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06-10-2021, 09:16 AM
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I've thought the same thing - how poorly are they being slapped together? I also predict there will be a flood of these used units on the market over the next couple of years as all of the people who bought one just to escape Covid find out they really don't like camping and would rather fly/cruise etc for vacation. Buyer beware!
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Goldsboro, NC
2020 Wolfpack 365Pack16
2018 Yamaha Star Venture TC in back
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06-10-2021, 09:22 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Northen IL
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Originally Posted by KyDan
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We have a Chrsyler plant in the next town over having the same issues.
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06-10-2021, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Being one waiting for my Covid TT.
Those old timers who bought 3 to 5 years ago will be pulling and driving rusty buckets while our New minor issue TT and Rv's will be waving bye-bye while your roadside help is en route.
Sorry the value for resale on your TT Rv's will be the scrap prices for aluminum ship lap sidling can bring.
Important: All said in Jest!
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06-10-2021, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2021
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Where is the like button?!
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06-10-2021, 09:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akf15e
I've thought the same thing - how poorly are they being slapped together? I also predict there will be a flood of these used units on the market over the next couple of years as all of the people who bought one just to escape Covid find out they really don't like camping and would rather fly/cruise etc for vacation. Buyer beware!
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That is exactly what is happening at animal rescue shelters all over the states. People adopted dogs and cats during the pandemic when they had free time on their hands. Now, everyone is going back to work and these very same people are returning their rescues because they no longer have time for them or they were not able to take the time to train them correctly. Sad, very sad.
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06-10-2021, 09:49 AM
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Trailer Park Supervisor
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Northern NJ
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I knew I should have invested in this industry a year ago when I predicted this. I'm so mad at myself.
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06-10-2021, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Originally Posted by NJKris
I knew I should have invested in this industry a year ago when I predicted this. I'm so mad at myself.
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That and Dog Care or Training .
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06-11-2021, 09:00 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: ALASKA (World's Biggest Campground)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akf15e
I've thought the same thing - how poorly are they being slapped together? I also predict there will be a flood of these used units on the market over the next couple of years as all of the people who bought one just to escape Covid find out they really don't like camping and would rather fly/cruise etc for vacation. Buyer beware!
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Economically speaking, that would be disastrous. While THOR reports over $14 billion in back orders, imagine what the other manufacturers have. I can't even imagine $1-$2 billion of used RV inventory being dumped on the market. It will drive down the value of currently owned RV's significantly. Folks that financed with minimal down will instantly be underwater on their loans.
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06-11-2021, 09:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
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Time to invest in scrap yards.
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06-11-2021, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTnewbie
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news...cid=entnewsntp
If quality, craftsmanship and materials were an issue all these years for RV's, I would hate to be one of the people that receives one of these back ordered units. These units are going to be held together by glue and duct tape.
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the story mentions that it is Thor... of all the trailers and MHs the wife and i looked at when we were looking to purchase, the Thor built ones were the least impressive to begin with.... i would hate to see the quality drop even more on them...
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06-11-2021, 10:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D W
Economically speaking, that would be disastrous. While THOR reports over $14 billion in back orders, imagine what the other manufacturers have. I can't even imagine $1-$2 billion of used RV inventory being dumped on the market. It will drive down the value of currently owned RV's significantly. Folks that financed with minimal down will instantly be underwater on their loans.
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That's why I live by the idea that you should never finance something that you cannot pay off in 3 years, other than a house. When I bought my trailer the finance manager kept stressing that all I was just going to pay was about $100 month after all of the negotiations were out of the way. Yeah, for 10 years! No, thank you. I made sure that I could pay it off in 3 years and scheduled my payments accordingly.
I understand that everyone has different financial situations but that is something that I do.
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06-11-2021, 11:51 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Springbor, OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogieboy
the story mentions that it is Thor... of all the trailers and MHs the wife and i looked at when we were looking to purchase, the Thor built ones were the least impressive to begin with.... i would hate to see the quality drop even more on them...
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but...but...but....Airstream.
If Thor is is sitting on $14 billion in backorders you can bet Forest River is as well since the parts they are all made of are the same and have the same supply issue.
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06-11-2021, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTnewbie
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news...cid=entnewsntp
If quality, craftsmanship and materials were an issue all these years for RV's, I would hate to be one of the people that receives one of these back ordered units. These units are going to be held together by glue and duct tape.
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Sorry to say but they are like that now.
IMHO.
Same Same.
I wish I did not feel this way but when you spend your hard earned money and have to constantly repair repair repair what else can you feel?
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06-11-2021, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenandterry
I’ve been telling people……
In the years to come, conversations might get around to telling someone what year their car, truck, motorhome or whatever is.
If they answer “2021”.
I’ll be saying…….”So you’re the one!”
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Model years may even be "hyphenated".
First number is year built and second, year delivered.
Way things are going there may be some 2021-2023 "model years".
Should be interesting to see what happens with car mfr's plans for the next couple model years considering that the current models may not be delivered for some time.
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06-11-2021, 08:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Originally Posted by campers302
Sorry to say but they are like that now.
IMHO.
Same Same.
I wish I did not feel this way but when you spend your hard earned money and have to constantly repair repair repair what else can you feel?
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You missed the whole point of my comment.
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06-11-2021, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cstreu1026
but...but...but....Airstream.
If Thor is is sitting on $14 billion in backorders you can bet Forest River is as well since the parts they are all made of are the same and have the same supply issue.
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I'm not too sure about that. Thor has some major brand names that are icons in the RV world from what I learned. FR is not on the same platform of recognition as they are in my opinion.
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