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Old 10-27-2017, 03:25 PM   #21
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Old 10-27-2017, 03:45 PM   #22
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Here is the link for buying direct from Goodyear

https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires...BBCardTireName
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Old 10-27-2017, 03:52 PM   #23
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After reading many of the posts here and elsewhere, I started comparing the ones getting the most positives. To mean it seems like the best way to consider the tires (other than manufacturer preference) is to compare 3 factors:
  1. Weight of tire
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  3. Load Capacity

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Old 10-27-2017, 03:58 PM   #24
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I think the question should be what’s the best tire for me as everyone has a opinion. On my Cedar Creek I run Goodyear G614 and probably have 40,000 miles or more on the tires and no problems and tires look like new and I sometimes run 75mph or better. But the tires are not cheap. I also have TST 507 TPMS on the tires, I keep the tires checked
I ran the OEM Westlake tires on my Brookstone fifth wheel for the first two years. Had just over 20 k miles on them. Not a bad tire but when I replaced them this spring I did as above- Goodyear G614. Also use the TPMS for peace of mind. My one way run is 2500 miles in five days, so I want no tire problems if I can avoid it.

On my previous fifth wheel, I lived thru the exploding Goodyear China made marathon tires - so now I run Goodyear made on the ISA G614. Not cheap but I wanted a good tire.
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:51 PM   #25
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Everyone has their favorite. I run Maxxis 8008's. Maxxis or Sailun are at the top of the food chain IMO. I've never been a fan of Goodyear but that's me. Many, many, many discussions about tires on the forum. Did I mention many?

True! Everyone has a favorite. I had a car trailer, 32’, well loades. Had 15” Goodyear Marathons ( spelling?). I would buy at least one per trip, Most cost $146.00 at Goodyear dealers. Blew one in South Carolina. Drove off the Interstate abour 5 miles, small Goodyear store; $86.00, mounted, balanced, and out the door. I ask him how he could sell them at that price. He said that’s always been the price. Yes, it was the same size and load range.
Dealer convinces me to go bigger. 275/70/16. LR E. Solved my problem. Eac case os different. Good luck!!
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:20 PM   #26
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So I have a tire question... My current size is 235x80-16 and the trailer is high in the front when it is hooked to the truck. Should I size up the tires to level the trailer out? I have room in the wheel well to go bigger. I just wasn't sure about increasing the side wall height.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:54 PM   #27
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Other quality RV brands right out of the factory put Sailun's on their Fifth Wheels. They are high quality tires and have very low failure rate, in fact I have i only heard of one failure due to road hazard.
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:15 PM   #28
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Had about 3000 miles on originals before 1st flat. Put Maxxis on and after 15,000 miles no problems.
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:43 PM   #29
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We have had tire failure issues on every RV we have owned for the past 30+ years. Our current RV is a 2016 Cardinal 3250 5th wheel. It is less than 2 years old. On our latest camping experience, we were told by a neighbor that there was something wrong with two of our tires. Close inspection revealed huge sidewall "bubbles" on the inside of two of our tires. We had no way to change tires, so we crept slowly home on PCH in SoCal to our driveway.


The tires are ST 235/80R16 Goodyear Marathons installed by the factory. Two of them are total failures.


I have ordered replacement Goodyear Endurance tires of the same size and load range. They will be installed before our next camp outing. Will keep everyone posted on our experience.
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:52 PM   #30
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So I have a tire question... My current size is 235x80-16 and the trailer is high in the front when it is hooked to the truck. Should I size up the tires to level the trailer out? I have room in the wheel well to go bigger. I just wasn't sure about increasing the side wall height.
Going to an '85' series tire will generally only be 1" taller.

Research will show Sailun S637 tires have the lowest failure rate of all. Actually, other than road hazard I've found zero. Only 1 road hazard failure report found. No blow outs. The former holy grail is the GY G614. Few failures reported. Second best at twice the price of Sailun. Those only apply if wheels are rated for 110PSI. As the only blowout I ever had was on a GY LT tire I stay away, illogical but why when there are better available.

For those with wheels rated to 80# there are only two in my mind and a squeaky 3rd. Maxxis 8008 and Carlisle HD would be my 1st choices. I had great luck on a TT and 2 5ers with Carlisle. On my Cougar the wheels were rated at 80#. I ran Carlisle LR F at 90# on those with metal valve stems. GY came out with the Endurance in January. So far it looks good. However, it will take 3 - 5 years before any reputation is certain, or almost certain. When GY came out with Marathon they worked well for some time, now known as Marabombs~ a trust issue exists.
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Old 10-27-2017, 08:16 PM   #31
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I think the question should be what’s the best tire for me as everyone has a opinion. On my Cedar Creek I run Goodyear G614 and probably have 40,000 miles or more on the tires and no problems and tires look like new and I sometimes run 75mph or better. But the tires are not cheap. I also have TST 507 TPMS on the tires, I keep the tires checked
I also upgraded to G614s and feel it was a good investment.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:26 PM   #32
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What the heck is a Goodyear G614? Is that a trailer tire?? Are they better than the Goodyear Endurance trailer tires I just ordered??
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:37 PM   #33
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What the heck is a Goodyear G614? Is that a trailer tire?? Are they better than the Goodyear Endurance trailer tires I just ordered??


G614’s are G rated and 14 ply. You need to make sure your rims are rated to take them (3750#) and the pressure is 110 vs 80 for the Endurance.
The G614’s are tried and true while the Endurance is pretty new. Both good tires from what I’ve read. I was lucky to have the upgraded rims so went with the higher rated tires to withstand the crappy roads.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:40 PM   #34
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What the heck is a Goodyear G614? Is that a trailer tire?? Are they better than the Goodyear Endurance trailer tires I just ordered??
The GY G614 is a LR G (14 ply) tire with a good reputation. The only tire with a better reputation is the Sailun S637 at 1/2 the price. Yes, the G614 is a better tire than the Endurance (not around long enough to have a reputation yet). The Endurance is a LR E (10 ply). The G614 weighs about 50% more than the Endurance. However, your wheels may be rated to 80# psi and could not handle the 110 psi of the G614.
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:44 PM   #35
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I'm paying around $200.00 per tire for Endurance Load Range E tires. What would a G614 cost per tire??
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:46 PM   #36
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I'm paying around $200.00 per tire for Endurance Load Range E tires. What would a G614 cost per tire??


$300ish for Just the tire.
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Old 10-27-2017, 10:07 PM   #37
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to spock123: do you really have 40,000 miles on your goodyear g614's? how old are the tires? what pressure to you inflate them to? I have 614's on our 5th wheel and run them at 110 psi. I generally drive at 65mph but of course there will brieg (not sustained periods) where I exceed that (ie downhill, passing). I keep uv covers on the tires when stored. is there anything you can look for on the tires to see if they need to be replaced. my tires look fine (at least from what I can see). the tread wear is even and does not show any feathering or cupping. the tires have a manufacturing date of 2013 and on the 5th wheel when we bought in it early 2015. I read about people replacing tires every three years or so. i really do not what tire problems when on a trip. the g614's are not cheap but if they will last 40,000 miles (even 20,000 miles) they will be less expensive than just automatically replacing tires every three years. from everything i have read these are good tires that should last if cared for. just wondering what you did to get all those miles.


Lets see about the tires. I live in NC and I have been to Yellowstone twice, Niagara Falls, Disney World, Goshen three times, Alaska, Pigeon Forge TN more times than I have fingers and toes. Intercourse PA four times, Myrtle Beach a few times. The Goodyear G614 has been great for me but it all comes down to what works for you. The Westlake tires that came on my first Cedar Creek were a good tire but I have always ran TST 507 TPMS. This Cedar Creek came from the factory with 7,000lb axels and the Goodyear tires. When these tires wear out the G614 will go back on camper unless I trade campers and the new camper will not leave the dealer without the Goodyear’s. The new camper I’m looking at is the Cedar Creek 38FBD, if I’m lucky enough to get that camper I’ll probably put the 17.5 Goodyears on it. But hey look this is just my opinion, just make sure that whatever tire you buy install a set of TPMS that you trust.
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Will the Goodyear G614 fit onto a 6.0 x 16-inch diameter wheel??


I am fed up with a trailer tire blow-outs with OEM tires about 2-3 times per year after purchasing new!!
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Will the Goodyear G614 fit onto a 6.0 x 16-inch diameter wheel??


I am fed up with a trailer tire blow-outs with OEM tires about 2-3 times per year after purchasing new!!
Not sure about the 614 wheel size but guess it is the same as the better choice, Sailun S637 at 6.50

Code Sailun Product Code Size Tire Size LI/SR Load Index / Speed Rating P.R. Ply Rating: the number indicating the strength of a tire casing. T.D. Tread Depth: the distance from the bottom of the tire's grooves to the top of the tread rubber RIM Rim Width: diameter of the rim in inches O.D. Overall Diameter: the distance around the center of the outside tread S.W. Section Width: the width of an inflated tire in inches at its widest point S.L.R. Static Load Radius: the vertical distance between the ground and the center of the tire rotation axis. LCC 1X Load Carrying Capacity (Single): Maximum weight a tire can carry at a specific pressure. LCC 2X Load Carrying Capacity (Dual): Maximum weight a pair of tires in dual configuration can carry at a specific pressure. A.P. Air Pressure 32nds in. in. in. in. lbs. lbs. p.s.i. S5541960 ST235/80R16* 129/125 L 14 10 6.50 30.8 9.3 14.7 4,080 3,640 110 S5540993 ST235/85R16* 132/127 L 14 12 6.50 31.7 9.3 14.7 4,400 3,860 110
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Is the Sailun Tire manufactured in the USA or in China??
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