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Old 10-06-2020, 10:48 AM   #41
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I just got back from a 17 day trip to the Dakotas and other places. I always made sure I hit the button that said 87 since my engine requires it at a minimum. Some stations had 85 as their lowest octane and others had 87. Maybe it was just me but I had no problem figuring out the correct button to hit.
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Old 10-06-2020, 01:55 PM   #42
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You guys are going to run out it of places to do business with soon
And of course they are out to get you and your money, it's a business!
Just curious, but is it deceptive everytime your grocery store changes the location of all of its products?
Not deceptive at all. Customers become “blind” to products that stay in exactly the same place for extended periods of time. Moving the products catch the eyes of customers.

We also move products because selection is constantly changing (especially now that so many products we carried are no longer available).
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Old 10-06-2020, 03:31 PM   #43
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Not deceptive at all. Customers become “blind” to products that stay in exactly the same place for extended periods of time. Moving the products catch the eyes of customers.

We also move products because selection is constantly changing (especially now that so many products we carried are no longer available).
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The general consensus seemed to be "Buyer Beware".

So very true....
Yup Read the same thread and now I'm paying a lot more attention. In fact with DEF being sold at stations as well now you need to make sure that you don't drop DEF or Diesel into the wrong tanks as well. As I filled up my DP on the way home from the Dealers after having warranty work completed, that thread came to mind when I was ready to fill up and not just me my DW as well. We checked to make sure it was Diesel and I explained why it's important to pay attention. Don't assume anything is the same old, same old....
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For the diesel people... smell the nozzle. Works every time.
At the stations I buy fuel the diesel always has a different hose. If you select the wrong hose, but select diesel it will not dispense.
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I never even knew there was any sort of standard. It never occurred to me. For the last forty-some years, I have always just looked at the pump and selected what I wanted.

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Old 10-11-2020, 02:11 PM   #47
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Where is this standard published?

It is in the same document that states that the hot water faucet in a wash basin is typically the left faucet and the cold water is typically the right faucet.
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Old 10-11-2020, 07:54 PM   #48
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It is in the same document that states that the hot water faucet in a wash basin is typically the left faucet and the cold water is typically the right faucet.
The Uniform Plumbing Code also dictates the color of fuel dispensing nozzels?

There is no standard for fuel nozzle color in the US. Do an internet search on it. Plenty of articles to read about it.

(I did enjoy the tounge in check reference, though)
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i would fill up my work truck with Diesel at a BP station all the time. One day I pulled up to the pump from the opposite side and filled it only to find I put gasoline in the tank. After, I did this I found out the buttons and hoses were reversed on the back side. The diesel was back to back and the gasoline was back to back on the opposite side I learned to look at the pumps after that.
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Old 10-11-2020, 08:32 PM   #50
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The best effort I have ever seen for a fuel station to catch customers off guard is at Conoco in Ogallala, Nebraska. The big sign shows the price for regular gas. The station has ten pumps. The small wording at the bottom of the sign says “regular at pumps 9 and 10 only”. Those are the pumps at the far end of the station. The unobservant customers zip in to the conveniently located pumps 1 through 8, closer to the entrance, and pay a significantly higher price for gas as a penalty for their lack of attention to the price sign. I sit there and watch customers come and go. This deceptive system seems to work very well, or else most people really don’t care what price they pay.
CONOCO in North Platte, NE is he same way. They got me once, never went there again.
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CONOCO in North Platte, NE is he same way. They got me once, never went there again.
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There is a de facto (not de jure) standard. Not every station follows it.

Diesel should be green
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The three main grades should be organized from left to right, low octane to high.

Always read carefully before pumping. However, to prevent mistakes when distracted, I recommend avoiding brands that do not follow the de facto standard.
100% right. ALWAYS read. Around here, at BP stations, Diesel is yellow and Gas is green. Read before you pump. It seems simple to me.
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Beware of BP stations! Everywhere else diesel is the green pump handle. At BP gasoline is green.
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There is a de facto (not de jure) standard. Not every station follows it.

Diesel should be green. The three main grades should be organized from left to right, low octane to high.

Always read carefully before pumping. However, to prevent mistakes when distracted, I recommend avoiding brands that do not follow the de facto standard.
When I was in college, I worked summers for a moving company in St. Louis. Zeke, the older gentleman who ran the warehouse, had a very handy expression -- "Should ain't is." It was shorthand for, "Maybe that's the way it should be, but it ain't the way it is."

It's a useful motto to keep in mind for situations like the one you describe.
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lol - I thought you were going to say you hit the end of the pump with your trailer.
we pay 4.5 a gallon for regular gas here 1 hour away from 1 of the largest refineries on the east coast.
and that's low.
generally its over $5.20 a gallon
I wonder how much of that is the gas tax.
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The general consensus seemed to be "Buyer Beware".

So very true....

Also known as just plain ole common sense.
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Not deceptive at all. Customers become “blind” to products that stay in exactly the same place for extended periods of time. Moving the products catch the eyes of customers.

We also move products because selection is constantly changing (especially now that so many products we carried are no longer available).
Exactly why many retail establishments completely or partially move their products from one shelf/aisle to another so you have to LOOK in the hope you will see and buy something you normally hadn't.

It's a marketing ploy.
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Exactly why many retail establishments completely or partially move their products from one shelf/aisle to another so you have to LOOK in the hope you will see and buy something you normally hadn't.

It's a marketing ploy.
I agree.

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It is in the same document that states that the hot water faucet in a wash basin is typically the left faucet and the cold water is typically the right faucet.
In St. Clair, MO, they've come up with a system to make it easier for plumbers to run the lines correctly:
St. Clair Water Towers
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Also known as just plain ole common sense.
Unfortunately, common sense and common courtesy are sometimes sadly misnamed. Neither is as common as we'd like to think it is.
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