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Old 11-11-2021, 06:24 PM   #41
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...and the trailer 10K....
Not sure this trailer weighs 10K...

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Old 11-11-2021, 06:52 PM   #42
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Not sure that truck was rated to pull that trailer empty. 🤣
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Old 11-11-2021, 06:58 PM   #43
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Lived in Reno 3 years and have been up and down that hill numerous times. That's a looooong way down with no trailer or engine brakes. If the boat weighed 19K and the trailer 10K that comes to 29K and is probably well past the the max tow rating on that Ford F-350 DRW. I find it astonishing that he didn't have trailer brakes either. That trucking company owner is probably in a lot of trouble too, given it was his driver. Just because you "No habla" isn't an excuse.

I've seen people towing down a long, steep grade riding their brakes and not using the engine to slow everything down. It isn't pretty.
AFAIK, there is a runaway truck ramp at the bottom of the Spooner grade, just before the intersection. I realize truck drivers in a panic with no brakes might miss the ramp..but they are well marked with signs.
If I had to guess, this driver is an owner operator who works for a broker who sells him loads to pull or carry. The trucking industry calls these drivers "hot shots" and they have a reputation of being unregulated. Hot shots deliver loads when it absolutely has to be there asap.
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What trailer brakes???
Did the boat owner provide the trailer?

Or did the driver borrow one from a buddy?
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:17 PM   #45
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Don't boat trailers usually have surge brakes? Electric brakes tend to get unhappy when they are submerged....
Don't know for sure. Around where i live larger boat trailers never get " dunked ". Boats of any size are usually launched and recovered with cranes or travel-lifts.

Regardless, even hudraulic "surge brakes" have emergency breakaway devices with chain/cable that needs to be attached to a solid anchor on tow vehicle.

Curious how fast the driver was going down the hill. Even with good brakes they will fade rapidly is going downhill fast.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:38 PM   #46
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A Cigarette Auroris with 5 engines is 20,000 lbs., most are a lot less. I'm guessing the weight might have been 19,000 lbs. rather than 19 tons.
Based on the journalism I'm seeing these days, it wouldn't surprise me if the original reporter thinks 1000 lbs. is a ton.
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Old 11-11-2021, 07:46 PM   #47
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Based on the journalism I'm seeing these days, it wouldn't surprise me if the original reporter thinks 1000 lbs. is a ton.

You mean itís not?
I tried to lift a thousand pounds once and I said out loud, ďholy crap that weighs a tonĒ

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You mean itís not?
I tried to lift a thousand pounds once and I said out loud, ďholy crap that weighs a tonĒ

For some here a 100# generator weighs a ton
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Old 11-11-2021, 08:04 PM   #49
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My guess is the weight is the gvrws of the truck and trailer. For CDL it is the capacities and or physical weight to determine license class. So a 350 Dually I have seen anywhere from 12500 to 14500 GVWR and a 5 axle trailer I am sure is at least 20k. I deal with them all the time as they see a TV show for shipping wars go out and get a dually and a low boy and think they are golden. It would amaze people what are on the roads around them.
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I live five minutes away from where this horrific accident occurred. Witnesses who saw the boat being towed from Lake Tahoe stated the truck was way too small for that very large boat. I drive my class C rv on that stretch of mountain highway and it is NOT fun! Very steep and windy 6% grade; downshifting and not riding the brakes IS a necessity. I donít think the runaway vehicle sand trap at the bottom is very well marked either. Tragically; Gonzales the 24 year old inexperienced driver failed to even use it.
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Lived in Reno 3 years and have been up and down that hill numerous times. That's a looooong way down with no trailer or engine brakes. If the boat weighed 19K and the trailer 10K that comes to 29K and is probably well past the the max tow rating on that Ford F-350 DRW. I find it astonishing that he didn't have trailer brakes either. That trucking company owner is probably in a lot of trouble too, given it was his driver. Just because you "No habla" isn't an excuse.

I've seen people towing down a long, steep grade riding their brakes and not using the engine to slow everything down. It isn't pretty.
10k for that trailer 😳 I owned dual tandem 40,000 capacity Fruehauf tilt bed for my tractors and it weighed 8,000.
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The driving without a license should be a real clue -- don't ya think?
yes!

Any before ya'll go crazy deciding the facts...we need real weights and did the brakes work or was the driver riding the brakes etc....everyone relax...it will all come out in time.
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Any before ya'll go crazy deciding the facts...we need real weights and did the brakes work or was the driver riding the brakes etc....everyone relax...it will all come out in time.
NO!, this is the internet and we are supposed to jump to conclusions and pass judgement and burn everyone involved in the media until their lives are ruined regardless of culpability.
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NO!, this is the internet and we are supposed to jump to conclusions and pass judgement and burn everyone involved in the media until their lives are ruined regardless of culpability.


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I have a 2019 F-350. When I bought it I asked the dealer to show me the weight limits on the computer. He pulled it up and showed it to me. For a 5th wheel hitch the limit was 27500. But for a gooseneck hitch the limit is 38,000. Maybe that's where the reporter screwed up number.
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Wait! Waaaaaaat? You mean this is nothing but click-bait for trauma junkies? Say it isn't so!!
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NO!, this is the internet and we are supposed to jump to conclusions and pass judgement and burn everyone involved in the media until their lives are ruined regardless of culpability.
The weight police have had a field day so far!!
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Not sure this trailer weighs 10K...

I looked up the dealer in Florida (look at the dealer name on the frame - coincidence that the driver was from Florida, perhaps?) and a trailer to haul a boat that size and weight runs 12.5K to 14.5K shipping weight depending on manufacturer. This one probably weighs a little bit less.

The frames are adjustable to accommodate a wide range of sizes.
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Im sorry but todays news reporters dont know facts on anything its all miss leading from the media and on the net.yes tragic accident but this person should have not been behind wheel to begin woth.if you cant speak or read english shouldn't be driving.just my 2 cent i could get in trouble if told you how i really feel.
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