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Old 06-15-2019, 01:33 PM   #1
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I see people talk about China bomb tires.

Is this any one brand or is there many brands of China bombs out there.
How do I find out if my couchman has China bombs ?
I will upgrade to a 80 mph tire one day when needed just for security.
What are options for a good replacement tire brands.
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Old 06-15-2019, 03:59 PM   #2
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I see people talk about China bomb tires.



Is this any one brand or is there many brands of China bombs out there.

How do I find out if my couchman has China bombs ?

I will upgrade to a 80 mph tire one day when needed just for security.

What are options for a good replacement tire brands.
Frence Bombs also!
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:51 PM   #3
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China bomb is generic for poor quality tires made in China. They are made under many brand names. For my money, the best ST tires on the market are Maxxis and Sailun, with Good Year Endurance probably added to that list. The Good Year tire has only been on the market for two years, so there isn't much data on it.
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French Bombs also!
I don't think they fixed their problem!
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Many people point their fingers unjustly at Chinese tires in general, for poor quality. Yes, they do produce a significant number for the world market, but so do every other other country out there. I have had fantastic luck with Hankook Tires, while others I know wouldn't run one on a bet! Many people swear by the Goodyear tires (but never check to see if they are the Endurance models, or another one of many G series they make. I believe that poor maintenance, poor tire pressure, over speed, overloading, and picking crappy roads contributes a lot to tire failures. If you really want to swear by a tire, I suggest that you learn to read tire manufacturing plant codes, so you know where they are really coming from. Below is just an example of the Goodyear Endurance plants in the USA.

Goodyear USA Tire Plant Codes
M6 – Lawton, Oklahoma.
MB – Akron, Ohio.
MC – Danville, Virginia.
MD – Gadsden, Alabama.
MJ – Topeka, Kansas.
MK – Union City, Tennessee.
MM, PJ – Fayetteville, North Carolina.
MN – Freeport, Illinois.
MP, PL – Tyler, Texas.
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Been running China made tires for years and currently have 16 never had one explode or go flat yet.

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Many people point their fingers unjustly at Chinese tires in general, for poor quality. Yes, they do produce a significant number for the world market, but so do every other other country out there. I have had fantastic luck with Hankook Tires, while others I know wouldn't run one on a bet! Many people swear by the Goodyear tires (but never check to see if they are the Endurance models, or another one of many G series they make. I believe that poor maintenance, poor tire pressure, over speed, overloading, and picking crappy roads contributes a lot to tire failures. If you really want to swear by a tire, I suggest that you learn to read tire manufacturing plant codes, so you know where they are really coming from. Below is just an example of the Goodyear Endurance plants in the USA.

Goodyear USA Tire Plant Codes
M6 – Lawton, Oklahoma.
MB – Akron, Ohio.
MC – Danville, Virginia.
MD – Gadsden, Alabama.
MJ – Topeka, Kansas.
MK – Union City, Tennessee.
MM, PJ – Fayetteville, North Carolina.
MN – Freeport, Illinois.
MP, PL – Tyler, Texas.

Thanks for the codes. I have been in the Danville VA Goodyear plant more times that I would have liked to............. They make mostly big truck tires and aircraft tires...........
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[QUOTE=Blank;2119177 I believe that poor maintenance, poor tire pressure, over speed, overloading, and picking crappy roads contributes a lot to tire failures.[/QUOTE]
And folks who continually state this, have never experienced the "China Bomb" syndrome, or they would admit there are some tires, usually made in China, that are just bad.
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Exactly. Take care and you probably won't. In my previous career before retirement, I probably averaged between 30-50K miles per year for work. I have had every make of tire imaginable, and I bet I haven't had 10 flats in 40 years. Rotate at proper interval, inspect and maintain depth of tread, keep the pressures right and they go on rolling forever.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:40 PM   #10
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I see people talk about China bomb tires.

Is this any one brand or is there many brands of China bombs out there.
How do I find out if my couchman has China bombs ?
I will upgrade to a 80 mph tire one day when needed just for security.
What are options for a good replacement tire brands.

To my way of thinking, changing to an 80 mph tire and not upgrading the load rating won't buy you anything.



If your tires are rated for 15% or more above the loaded weight of your trailer, you will probably be fine. If not, get tires with a higher load rating.



In any case, physics says that the faster you go, the more your trailer will try to sway.



YMMV.
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I also agree it has little to do with the country of origin and more to do with how they are treated.

Treating ST tires properly is the key:
Never tow under-inflated.
Never tow overloaded.
Never tow over the tire's speed rating.

You should also have at least 15% reserve load capacity - the tire's load capacity rating compared to the actual weight of a trailer (fully loaded for camping).

Heat is what kills ST tires from any of the above. The internal damage is cumulative and some day a tire can explode for no apparent reason.

ST tires should be replaced at no more than 5 years old.

Note well, some trailers can weigh more on one side due to slides and/or kitchen and also from one axle to the other. Going to a scale is highly recommended, especially if you can get weights on each tire.

Problem is when people have a blowout on Chinese tires, you will never ever know how they were treated. They often claim they were treated properly but talk is cheap. Our made in China Marathons have lasted 5 years just fine and we're in the process of replacing them with Endurance. We also upgraded to the LRD Marathons from LRC and have about 30% reserve load capacity.

For some great info. on Chinese tires, go to Roger Marble's RVtiresafety.net blog. He has 13 posts on Chinese tires.
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I don't think they fixed their problem!
Nope......they just gave up.
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Speed is also a factor. The yahoo in the the triple axle 5ver that passed me doing 90+ on I-80 going west today, yeah....he's just looking for a nice Blow Out.
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Speed is also a factor. The yahoo in the the triple axle 5ver that passed me doing 90+ on I-80 going west today, yeah....he's just looking for a nice Blow Out.
Seen that often too and "when" they have a blow out it will be the China tires fault not theirs for doing 90mph .........
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If your tires are rated for 15% or more above the loaded weight of your trailer, you will probably be fine. If not, get tires with a higher load rating.



In any case, physics says that the faster you go, the more your trailer will try to sway.



YMMV.[/QUOTE]


The few 80 mph tires I looked at do have a higher load rating going from C to D.
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I will be upgrading the load rating because I'm maxed out on the wight. I don't understand why a trailer manufacture would put a tire on a trailer that you can exceed the tire ratings and still be within the load rating of your triler.
I have 205-75-14 load range C now


Kenda Karrier radial tire is one I was looking at, it's a load range D max pressure 75 psi with a 81 speed rating.
This will increase the load capacity of around 500 per tire if I remember correctly.
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I know Kenda is a Chinese tire but I have used them on 2 boat trailers and a pop up without a problem over the last25 years.
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One thing good here in Virginia if you are caught driving any vehicle over 80 mph it is automatic reckless driving. It made the news here, not too long back where one out of state woman was caught more than once on I81 in one day and she had to spend some time in the regional jail.


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I would not pull a camper 80
I have looked down and I was doing 70 or a little over.
The higher speed and load is to just get off the max rating of a tire.
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Speed is also a factor. The yahoo in the the triple axle 5ver that passed me doing 90+ on I-80 going west today, yeah....he's just looking for a nice Blow Out.
I am willing to bet that rig was sporting temporary Indiana transporter tags.
I am guessing transporters want to make the delivery to the dealer as quickly as possible.
Which brings up this question, does 90 mph on brand new Castle Rock tires damage them for the eventual new RV owner?
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