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03-21-2019, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Witch Doctor
Ah, living in Virginia, you just have to love it, Verizon brought in DSL at my house also, I will never live long enough to see high speed in my area. DSL is good. I don't need lighting speed.
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No to hijack the thread, but on the internet subject..... I wouldn't concern myself about "high speed".
Our cable internet speed supposedly keeps increasing but it works no better than it ever did.
It also has a lot of interruptions where I'm connected to my router but there is no internet connection available. Personally I don't think the cable company can handle the demand 24/7, especially with the streaming demand.
We had 6Mbps DSL at one time that worked just as well. 
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03-21-2019, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirk S
No to hijack the thread, but on the internet subject..... I wouldn't concern myself about "high speed".
Our cable internet speed supposedly keeps increasing but it works no better than it ever did.
It also has a lot of interruptions where I'm connected to my router but there is no internet connection available. Personally I don't think the cable company can handle the demand 24/7, especially with the streaming demand.
We had 6Mbps DSL at one time that worked just as well. Attachment 199281 |
Same for computers. My old early 1990's 286 computer was touted as "blazingly fast."
They still use that term for new computers today.
Until things are faster than I can click the mouse, they'll never be fast enough.
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03-21-2019, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
Same for computers. My old early 1990's 286 computer was touted as "blazingly fast."
They still use that term for new computers today.
Until things are faster than I can click the mouse, they'll never be fast enough.
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A 286!?!?! I used to DREAM about owning a 286 machine. with actual floppy drives. I had to get by with a TRS-80 and cassette storage...
READY
>_ CLOAD "PROGRAM"
(press play on recorder, set volume, hope you got it right)
Wait for **
Go make a sandwich, come back and see if your 3.7KB program loaded.
Repeat as necessary...
Tim
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03-21-2019, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowracer
A 286!?!?! I used to DREAM about owning a 286 machine. with actual floppy drives. I had to get by with a TRS-80 and cassette storage...
READY
>_ CLOAD "PROGRAM"
(press play on recorder, set volume, hope you got it right)
Wait for **
Go make a sandwich, come back and see if your 3.7KB program loaded.
Repeat as necessary...
Tim
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Just for the record.....seeing as we’re talking hi-tech....
My Commodore 64 has never been hacked!
Take that you lurkers. 
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03-21-2019, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowracer
A 286!?!?! I used to DREAM about owning a 286 machine. with actual floppy drives. I had to get by with a TRS-80 and cassette storage...
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I learned to program in Basic on a Trash-80. I even spent the big bucks to double the memory with an aftermarket "piggy back" chip to 256K!. I had the Radio Shack "Four Color" strip printer that used mini pens... Radio Shack made a killing on strip paper rolls and color mini pens for that printer... 
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03-21-2019, 04:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowracer
A 286!?!?! I used to DREAM about owning a 286 machine. with actual floppy drives. I had to get by with a TRS-80 and cassette storage...
READY
>_ CLOAD "PROGRAM"
(press play on recorder, set volume, hope you got it right)
Wait for **
Go make a sandwich, come back and see if your 3.7KB program loaded.
Repeat as necessary...
Tim
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Been there, done that TRS and OHIO Scientific Computer
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03-21-2019, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLdr1
I learned to program in Basic on a Trash-80. I even spent the big bucks to double the memory with an aftermarket "piggy back" chip to 256K!. I had the Radio Shack "Four Color" strip printer that used mini pens... Radio Shack made a killing on strip paper rolls and color mini pens for that printer... |
I learned Fortran, Basic's father! Mid 1970's. And it was getting obsolete then!
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03-21-2019, 10:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowracer
A 286!?!?! I used to DREAM about owning a 286 machine. with actual floppy drives. I had to get by with a TRS-80 and cassette storage...
READY
>_ CLOAD "PROGRAM"
(press play on recorder, set volume, hope you got it right)
Wait for **
Go make a sandwich, come back and see if your 3.7KB program loaded.
Repeat as necessary...
Tim
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Haha, mine has 48K ram AND a floppy drive. Kerchunk, kerchunk, kerchunk...
Wrote my college business policy papers and did financial analysis with Visicalc.
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03-22-2019, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
I learned Fortran, Basic's father! Mid 1970's. And it was getting obsolete then!
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They still required fortran in college in the 90s. I guess it was not as dead as they thought. Had to take basic and cobol too. There was good money knowing those for Y2K...then it died again.
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03-22-2019, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbledan
They still required fortran in college in the 90s. I guess it was not as dead as they thought. Had to take basic and cobol too. There was good money knowing those for Y2K...then it died again.
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Too funny! I had a trs-80, upgraded to 32k, two external tape drives, a cradle mount modem and wired-up a teletype printer. Took my first programming course (basic), which led me to switch majors to 'Data Processing'.
How much does that date me????
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03-22-2019, 09:26 AM
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you're still young, relatively speaking : )
my 'old Commodore64 was great for my 'midi' synths to provide
arpeggiations and some other fun mods... for my Yamaha DX7,
the MemoryMoogPlus, and the Korg Poly800... to name a few
good times : )
then I traded them all in for a drum set...
always a drummer at heart, I guess : )
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03-22-2019, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbledan
They still required fortran in college in the 90s. I guess it was not as dead as they thought. Had to take basic and cobol too. There was good money knowing those for Y2K...then it died again.
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I remember seeing Fortran as an elective in my HS course guide but it was only for juniors and seniors. By the time I was a junior (graduated in 95) they had stopped offering it. I think it was because the guy that taught it retired.
I took Basic in 9th grade, learned some Mac programming in HS and took Cobol and Assembler in college. Then spent 15 years as a mainframe programmer.
At my second programming job they were thrilled to hire me because I was one of the few people that was under 35 and still had 10+ years of mainframe programming experience. Everyone else there was 50+.
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03-22-2019, 09:56 AM
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Anyone remember the Timex Sinclair 1000? 8" x 8" x 2" case with chiclet keypad, 1k memory expandable to 16k. You needed a B&W tv and cassette recorder, sound came through the tv, no modem. When it first came out the only programs were in computer magazines you had to type in yourself. Debugging was to review your typing for mistakes.
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03-22-2019, 10:30 AM
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Me and my youngest son played around with computers, not me much. I brought him a Commodore 64 and then moved up to a 128. He ran a BBS and had seven or eight friends on it. We used dial up and half duplex. Now days it’s a lost term. He taught himself basic in high school along with C. Those were fun days. I brought him a IBM clone, 150 meg hard drive, really a put the parts together, that computer was $1500 bucks. I promised him if he would go backpacking with me I would buy the computer, best money I ever spent. Thanks to him I backpacked a lot of days, he never went again
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03-22-2019, 10:38 AM
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Back to the high speed thing...
I'm a bit sceptical about high speed too. Although if they ever get the internet over electrical wires or a good wireless network, it might happen.
It's amazing how many people don't have access to DSL. Unless you're in a highly populated area, you probably won't get it any time soon and your smartphone might give you a faster connection.
Depending on how many people in our neighborhood are using DSL and how many people in our household are using computer devices, our DSL speed drops like a rock. It's enough to turn you into a nightowl just to get an actual acceptable connection.
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03-22-2019, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwritecode
I remember seeing Fortran as an elective in my HS course guide but it was only for juniors and seniors. By the time I was a junior (graduated in 95) they had stopped offering it. I think it was because the guy that taught it retired.
I took Basic in 9th grade, learned some Mac programming in HS and took Cobol and Assembler in college. Then spent 15 years as a mainframe programmer.
At my second programming job they were thrilled to hire me because I was one of the few people that was under 35 and still had 10+ years of mainframe programming experience. Everyone else there was 50+. |
Fortran... Basic... Ha! All kiddie languages. I actually dabbled in machine coding for the Z80 (assembly) back in the day. That was some obtuse stuff! Just to add 25 to 50 was 3 separate operations:
LD A,50 (load 50 into register A)
LD B,25 (load 25 into register B)
ADD A,B (Add A and B. Result is left in A)
You could got bonkers trying to keep track of things, oh and you pretty much had to think in Hexadecimal half the time.
I still do a little Visual Basic from time to time. Mainly to get Excel to do thing I really want it to do.
Tim
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03-22-2019, 10:53 AM
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Computer Talk
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
Same for computers. My old early 1990's 286 computer was touted as "blazingly fast."
They still use that term for new computers today.
Until things are faster than I can click the mouse, they'll never be fast enough.
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[emoji106]My first was a CPM machine. The memory was a 5.25" floppy. In college the computer input was punch cards. I used Fortran IV.
Someone pointed out that our cell phones have more memory and processing power than the computer used to take the Apollo spacecraft to the moon; and what do we use it for? Facebook, Twitter and games. Progress?
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03-22-2019, 10:54 AM
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As long as we are going down memory lane, how about an Altair 8800. Kept mine until just a few years ago and sold it to a collector for more than I paid for it!
CP/M forever!!
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03-22-2019, 10:58 AM
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Had an IBM PS1 in the early 90s. Not sure where that falls in the ancient history of things. Bought it at Sears.
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03-22-2019, 11:06 AM
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My first computer, at work, was an apple 2. It had a huge floppy drive and made weird noises as it was reading the drive. Really slow but oh so impressive. 1984.
First computer I ever saw was a teletype in the local sheriff's office. It literally types out the message like a typewriter. Really really slow,but much faster than mailing a letter. 1975.
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