Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-30-2021, 07:04 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 65
Do you do the dishes outside the camper?

Our neighbor at the campsite was doing dishes outside his rig, no grey water containment, just washing over the grass. Is this normal (Iíve never seen this), accepted, frowned upon, never do? Iím sure there are opinions in this, or maybe not. He was a seasonal camper in 5th wheel, FYI.

Curious as I lug my 5 gal grey water bucket once a day to the dump station.
PopUpPop is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 07:40 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
sdelam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 270
I think it depends on the camp ground. Some have rules against it, as do some states. Personally, unless there is a large amount of food particles, its not much different than using the outside shower on most units. I would think the larger concern would be insects and rodents from food waste than a little soapy water.
__________________
2020 GMC Denali 4X4 2500HD Duramax
2018 Work & Play 25WAB
sdelam is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 07:45 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
sdelam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 270
Not to mention I'm sure tent campers do it all the time.
__________________
2020 GMC Denali 4X4 2500HD Duramax
2018 Work & Play 25WAB
sdelam is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 08:20 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Homebrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,428
Iíve noticed some state campgrounds Iíve visited in Pennsylvania require you to wash dishes at the sinks provided at the bathhouse.
I have to say Pennsylvania does a nice job with there bathhouses. Iíve seen a few that were more primitive but the main bathhouses are very nice.
__________________
XLR Thunderbolt 300X12HP
2014 Ram 3500 DRW
Homebrew is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 08:52 AM   #5
The Driver
 
PoppySteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: East Texas
Posts: 212
It's a gray area Some education on the proper disposal of gray water is helpful.

https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/gray-water

One of my biggest complaints is when a campground has a rule against disposal of gray water on the ground but does not provide dish washing facilities.
__________________
Steve and Barbara
2011 Sunseeker 2860
2006 Honda CR-V
PoppySteve is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 09:13 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Chuck_S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Richmond VA
Posts: 2,387
Which campground? I want to put it on my Avoid at All Costs list. Soapy dish water on the lawn (it's probably just grass and weeds not lawn)?
Sure to attract all sorts of vermin.
__________________
2006 Roo 23SS behind a 2017 Ford Expedition
Chuck_S is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 09:19 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Hills of Northwestern PA
Posts: 1,512
Tent campers do it all the time.
Better on the ground than direct into a stream.
No worries.
__________________
2019 Cherokee Wolf Pup 16BHS flipped axle
2019 Ford F-150 S-Crew 5.5 bed V8 w/tow package, TBC, Tow Mirrors, 3.55, 7000# GVWR, 1990#CC
Husky Centerline TS WDH 400-600# spring bars
Boomerweps is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 09:39 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
rsdata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Northern KY
Posts: 5,372
lots of variables
type of soap and amount of soap and amount of water and proximity of dump site to YOUR campsite other campers among them.

DO YOU WASH CHUNKS of food/meat/seasonings or do you scrape and clean the plates/cooking utensils into the trash first?

There really should not be any visible amount of food particles in the wash water.

I have washed dishes outside a number of times, but responsibly, dispersing the water in a wide area and not doing it 3X a day for a week at a time...
__________________
"nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle."
Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell pg. 2, June 11, 1807

2014 Shamrock 183
2014 RAM 1500 Bighorn Crew Cab, HEMI, 3.21 gears, 8 Spd, 4X4 TST TPMS
rsdata is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 09:56 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Cass County Indiana
Posts: 145
Yes outside the camper, spreading the water out, sometimes to settle the dust of the roadway other times in the tall grasses.
__________________
Northern Indiana
2018 Salem Cruise Lite M-241QBXL
2018 GMC Canyon Denali
Rick the Rocket is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 09:59 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
robo44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 872
The U.S. Forest Service, BLM Lands, National Park Service, Bureau of Reclamation, and Army Corps of Engineers all have regulations making it illegal to dump grey water on the Federal lands that they maintain.

Most campgrounds have rules about dumping dishwater
When grey water contains food scraps, it can tempt animals to eat or drink it, which can be detrimental to their health. If you dump grey water while still in the area, it might also attract animals that you don’t want milling around your site, creating another type of danger to you and your family.

There are better ways to dispose of your gray water. Just because "others" just wash their dishes wherever they want to doesn't mean you should
__________________
2019 FR3 33DS Motorhome
650 Watts Solar, 400Ah LIFEPO4, 2000 Watt Inverter, 40A DC/DC Charger, SumoSprings, Roadmaster Steering Stabilizer, BlueOx Trac Bar, Truma AquaGo WH, NVIDIA Shield TV
Days Camping
2019 57:2020 20:2021 30 [/B]
robo44 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 10:04 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 172
I added an outdoor shelf next to the outdoor shower just for washing dishes.
We use paper plates and cups so the only washables are tableware (plastic - when it breaks it goes in the trash) and the actual pots/pans we cook in.
Paper products burned or tossed in the trash. Any pots/pans wiped thorougly with wipes and scraped, if necessary, to remove as much grease and particles as possible. Wipes go in the trash.
Usually wash just once per day - sometimes every other day if little cooking done. Use bio-degradable Castile soap. Most campgrounds we use have sink waste-water dumps scattered throughout the park. We use them. If there are no dumps, I'll take the gallon or so of wash water away to a brushy area and dump it. Never near a camper. Don't feel guilty about it in any way.
yukongold is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 10:36 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
njfishing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 653
Not sure if itís legal or not but I do it from time to time if I get into a pinch. Probably not smart to do this if youíre camping close to any body of water, are too close to a fellow camper or the area is all dirt and will make a muddy mess.
__________________
Gerry Z
2018 Forest River Heritage Glen 272RL
2018 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5 Ecoboost Max Trailer Package
Curt Trutrack WDH
HD Roadmaster Active Suspension
3200 Firman Generator/Inverter
njfishing is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 11:31 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
Posts: 13,064
I camp a lot in Forest Service campgrounds oe open land under BLM management.

Most have signs just saying not to dump any wash water within a given distance of any water (lake, stream).

Campers have been doing this since camping began, before we hauled out kitchens and toilets with us.

Use your head. Dishwater should contain little more than a SMALL amount of soap if you're washing properly.

As for attracting animals, they're more likely attracted by cooking smells than by soapy dishwater.
__________________
"A wise man can change his mind. A fool never will."

"You only grow old when you run out of new things to do"

2018 Flagstaff Micro Lite 25BDS
2004 Nissan Titan
TitanMike is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 11:59 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Johnson City, TX
Posts: 322
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdelam View Post
Not to mention I'm sure tent campers do it all the time.
I've tent camped hundreds of times, and not once have I ever washed my dishes in the tent.
__________________
Rockwood Ultra Light 2304DS, towed by 2018 Ram Cummins Diesel 2500 4x4
RobbieH is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 12:08 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Mountain Foothills of Southern Alberta
Posts: 1,600
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck_S View Post
Which campground? I want to put it on my Avoid at All Costs list. Soapy dish water on the lawn (it's probably just grass and weeds not lawn)? He feels entitled because (1) he's seasonal/special and (2) it's a 5th wheel.

Sure to attract all sorts of vermin. Wonder if he picks up after his dogs?

-- Chuck
Another place to avoid is the wilderness. Animals dump their black tanks out there.
__________________

2007 Surveyor SV230
- 200 Watts Solar/MPPT Controller - 230 AH Battery Bank (Two-GC2) - 600 watt PSW Inverter - (2) 2000 watt Inverter Generators - LED Lighting
2009 F150 - 5.4 Litre - Tow Package
Boon Docking 99% of the time.
boondocking is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 12:53 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Palinduff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 285
I grew up in tents, leantos, under the stars and tent trailers and we dumped the dishwater in the bush all the time, even in the national parks. Mind you that was in the 60s and 70s. As a boy scout we just used sand and water to wash our dishes, probably in the stream also. No soap though, feed the fishes I guess. Those were different times though. I wash my dishes in the trailer as a rule; but I will drain a little grey water out into a bucket to put the fire out at night, or when I'm leaving for a while.
__________________
2017 F150 Eco Boost, SC, 8' Box, 4X4
Max Tow (10 speed, 3:73, 11,700lbs), HD Payload (2440lbs)
2015 Puma 253 FBS
2013 Hyundai Santa Fe
2000 Honda EX 400
Palinduff is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 01:03 PM   #17
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Pensacola
Posts: 70
I have to comment here. 75 year old couple. Boy scout and girl scout. Camped all our lives. We and others like us certainly are not responsible for destroying our planet. So what we do is wash dishes in a dish pan, rinse in over a pail, then dump it all on the fire pit. Heck, you never know there might be fire waiting to happen. Bottom line, put me in jail or try and do or say what you want, I and you all who do what I do, stop feeling guilty. There will always be those who "Oh know so much better" lol go preach at your Sunday school I'm not listening.
__________________
Dan Retired Carpenter Builder, Active Realty Broker
Nancy Retired hard working mom.
2020 Ram 2500 Crew Cab, 4x4 8 bed, 6.4 hemi 4.11 gears, 50 gal tank, Auto Air Suspension, Equalizer WDH, Rear Camera, Max Tow .. Pulling 2018 Flagstaff V-Lite 30WFKSV
dannybye is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-30-2021, 01:28 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA
Posts: 515
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck_S View Post
Which campground? I want to put it on my Avoid at All Costs list. Soapy dish water on the lawn (it's probably just grass and weeds not lawn)?

Sure to attract all sorts of vermin.

-- Chuck

Making some broad assumptions there.

"soapy dish water on the lawn?" Oh the horrors.
__________________
2016 Flagstaff 23LB
howie70 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-31-2021, 12:26 PM   #19
dat
Junior Member
 
dat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: East Texas
Posts: 19
Is it technically considered gray water if it doesn’t go through the tank, like said before, campers many times use a pan, bucket, hose, cook pot, even with the park ranger, park police, host or what ever around to see, seems like more regulations on someone with a trailer than a tent
dat is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 07-31-2021, 12:27 PM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 65
Thanks for the responses, good insight. We tent camped for 10 years and always did our dishes at a dish station or some other waste (grey, not black) water drain or did them in a bucket and dumped the water in a drain.
PopUpPop is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply

Tags
camper

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Forest River, Inc. or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:56 PM.