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10-08-2019, 07:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: MD
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Floor plan, Floor plan, Floor plan...
Like location, location, location in Real Estate.
After two trouble-free seasons with our Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s we found a floor plan that we think will work better for us. We are planning to do longer trips across country and felt the extra space of the new unit would be better while still allowing us to keep it in our driveway.
Our 2104s has been a very solid trailer without “any” issues at all. Unfortunately, FR didn’t have the floor plan that fit our likes/dislikes. We recently placed an order for a new 2020 floor plan; Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...oorplans/22mle
We’re hoping it will be as trouble free as our 2104s.
I’ve learned so much from the folks on this Forum and I intend to stick around.
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10-08-2019, 02:02 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Agree. Well be moving to a different RV manufacturer, when we make our next purchase. We found the almost perfect floorplan for us, from another company that makes it in a TT and a 5th wheel.
If FR had anything close to it, we'd be staying with FR.
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and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.) 
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-08-2019, 02:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
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That is a nice layout. Would love just a little more counter space, but it's still nice.
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10-08-2019, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: North Port Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Agree. Well be moving to a different RV manufacturer, when we make our next purchase. We found the almost perfect floorplan for us, from another company that makes it in a TT and a 5th wheel.
If FR had anything close to it, we'd be staying with FR.
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Dan any chance you could share the floor plan ...
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10-08-2019, 03:01 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4711
Dan any chance you could share the floor plan ...
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The DW likes rear kitchen floorplans.
It's the Open Range/Mesa Ridge 280RKS, from Highland Ridge RV.
The 5th wheel version has some extras that the TT version doesn't, along with being a shorter combo.
It has tons of storage, theater recliners directly in front of the tv, outside kitchen, 3 year structural warranty.
Dry pin weight on the 5th wheel version is 1100lbs and it's under 30 feet, which makes it a good choice for national and state park campgrounds.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.) 
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-08-2019, 03:36 PM
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Kasual Kamper
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Fairfield County CT
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Tigger1, Grand Design makes higher-end RVs than Rockwood, so I think you will be very pleased. I noticed that along with the added length, you are going to gaining a lot more weight. I hope your Tundra will be up to the task.
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10-08-2019, 04:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: North Port Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
The DW likes rear kitchen floorplans.
It's the Open Range/Mesa Ridge 280RKS, from Highland Ridge RV.
The 5th wheel version has some extras that the TT version doesn't, along with being a shorter combo.
It has tons of storage, theater recliners directly in front of the tv, outside kitchen, 3 year structural warranty.
Dry pin weight on the 5th wheel version is 1100lbs and it's under 30 feet, which makes it a good choice for national and state park campgrounds.
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Nice ... Neighbor just got 2020 Open Range 37' mid bunk and it is nice but big .... we have Rockwood 2888WS and could not be happier ... and 32' gets us in the state parks ... we love out door kitchen with 4 cubic ft frig and yes theater seats in front of TV... Thanks Frank
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10-08-2019, 04:11 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank4711
we have Rockwood 2888WS and could not be happier ... and 32' gets us in the state parks ... we love out door kitchen with 4 cubic ft frig and yes theater seats in front of TV... Thanks Frank
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The DW absolutely will not have a rear living floorplan. She hates people having to walk through her kitchen, to sit in the living area.
That's why rear kitchen or front kitchen models are the only choice.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.) 
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-08-2019, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: MD
Posts: 259
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JayArras
Tigger1, Grand Design makes higher-end RVs than Rockwood, so I think you will be very pleased. I noticed that along with the added length, you are going to gaining a lot more weight. I hope your Tundra will be up to the task.
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Thanks, I hope it’s as solid as the Mini Lite!
As for the weight their website GVWR doesn’t appear to be correct at 6995#. The one we saw in person which was sold had 6395# see photo. Others on RV Trader that have that sticker photo are 6395#. We’ve always packed lite and carry no water so we will be under that number by several hundred lbs. It’s just the DW and me so the Tundra should not have any problems.
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2010 Toyota Tundra DC SR5 5.7l 4x4
2020 Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE
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2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid
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10-08-2019, 06:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Rio Hondo, TX
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I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.
This is the TT of my dreams.
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10-08-2019, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdstudey
I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.
This is the TT of my dreams.
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We saw and sat in several Lance TT’s at the Hershey RV Show a few weeks ago. Very nice and they all had a “richness” feeling to them.
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2010 Toyota Tundra DC SR5 5.7l 4x4
2020 Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE
Andersen WDH
2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid
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10-08-2019, 06:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
The DW likes rear kitchen floorplans.
It's the Open Range/Mesa Ridge 280RKS, from Highland Ridge RV.
The 5th wheel version has some extras that the TT version doesn't, along with being a shorter combo.
It has tons of storage, theater recliners directly in front of the tv, outside kitchen, 3 year structural warranty.
Dry pin weight on the 5th wheel version is 1100lbs and it's under 30 feet, which makes it a good choice for national and state park campgrounds.
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DW and I looked at a OR/HR 2410RL a few months back that she really liked. A couple weeks ago I saw my dealer has a new for 2020 floor plan by Prime Time, 24 RKS. Need to get to dealer to get a closer look. The OR 2410RL has Castle Rock LR C tires, but the PT has LR D. Been happy with our current PT and enjoy being part of the FR family. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
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Days camped 2021: 19
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10-08-2019, 08:50 PM
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#13
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdstudey
I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.
This is the TT of my dreams.
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That's an awesome trailer. I still have two young kids that we camp with, but I just sent that to The Wife as an example of the perfect camper when we retire and it is just the two of us. Very nice setup. If only they could have found a way to incorporate an actual door to separate the bedroom. I don't know why (since you can hear everything that happens in a camper), but The Wife and I really enjoy the cat that we have an actual wooden door to close off our bedroom.
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10-08-2019, 08:54 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdstudey
I really like that. Like the Highland Ridge as well Bikendan. I would have to do some arm twisting to get DH to move to a fifth wheel. It is just the right size. I love all of windows in both floorplan. I like to see all around me and plenty of natural light.
This is the TT of my dreams.
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Did you look at the TT version of the 280RKS? Almost everything is the same.
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Dan-Retired California Firefighter/EMT
Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.) 
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-09-2019, 03:50 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief T
DW and I looked at a OR/HR 2410RL a few months back that she really liked. A couple weeks ago I saw my dealer has a new for 2020 floor plan by Prime Time, 24 RKS. Need to get to dealer to get a closer look. The OR 2410RL has Castle Rock LR C tires, but the PT has LR D. Been happy with our current PT and enjoy being part of the FR family. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
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we currently have the predecessor to the Tracer Breeze line, a TracerAir 255.
the DW would hate the 24RKS because the entry door goes right into the kitchen. so anyone coming in to sit down or use the bathroom, has to walk through the kitchen to get to anything. our 255 model has the entry door entering into the living area, with the kitchen in the back. and the bathroom is to the right.
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Dan-Retired California Firefighter/EMT
Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.) 
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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10-09-2019, 06:15 AM
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Canadian Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
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Congrats Tigger1!
When we were shopping last year for a <35' 5er our favorite floorplan was in a Keystone Cougar but when I saw staples under the kitchen cabinets that was a no go. They use a few other things I wasn't comfortable with compared to our Rockwood TT. We ended up sticking with Rockwood Signature and a floorplan we are quite happy with.
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10-09-2019, 07:43 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: North Port Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itat
Congrats Tigger1!
When we were shopping last year for a <35' 5er our favorite floorplan was in a Keystone Cougar but when I saw staples under the kitchen cabinets that was a no go. They use a few other things I wasn't comfortable with compared to our Rockwood TT. We ended up sticking with Rockwood Signature and a floorplan we are quite happy with.
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All of the RV builders have their head scratching moments ... we went with Rockwood after looking at many ... the aluminum framing and vacuum wrapping/sealing sold me ...
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Frank & Cindy--- (SOB) 5th Wheel ---2019 Ram 3500 Cummins 6.7 SRW 4x4 8' bed--- Payload 4394------Remi & Sage camping pups---TST 507 TPMS ... B&W Patriot 18K---3.73 axle ... Predator 3500---2019 48 days ---2020 28 days Camping
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10-09-2019, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member
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The 22MLE has a leaf spring suspension. I think we’ll have to pack extra careful in the rear kitchen to prevent things from bouncing around.
I’ll also be changing out the two ceilling vents (bath & kitchen) that have the small little tiny fan to the Maxxair Maxxfan DLX low profile. The dinette cushions are a little soft too so a trip to our local Foam store will be needed. It also comes with roller shades in all windows. Will see how they turn out.
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2010 Toyota Tundra DC SR5 5.7l 4x4
2020 Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE
Andersen WDH
2018 Rockwood Mini Lite 2104s
2014 Jayco x17z Hybrid
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10-09-2019, 10:31 AM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigger1
The 22MLE has a leaf spring suspension. I think we’ll have to pack extra careful in the rear kitchen to prevent things from bouncing around.
I’ll also be changing out the two ceilling vents (bath & kitchen) that have the small little tiny fan to the Maxxair Maxxfan DLX low profile. The dinette cushions are a little soft too so a trip to our local Foam store will be needed. It also comes with roller shades in all windows. Will see how they turn out.
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1, look at adding shocks. They aren't too expensive but the installation can get pricey if you don't do the work yourself. It could help with the bounciness.
2, for foam, price out www.foambymail.com vs. locally. I've ordered from them 3-4 times now and have been extremely pleased. They were 1/2 the price of what a upholstery shop wanted for foam.
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10-09-2019, 11:31 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
1, look at adding shocks. They aren't too expensive but the installation can get pricey if you don't do the work yourself. It could help with the bounciness.
2, for foam, price out www.foambymail.com vs. locally. I've ordered from them 3-4 times now and have been extremely pleased. They were 1/2 the price of what a upholstery shop wanted for foam.
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Thank you for the ideas!
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