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Old 02-03-2022, 06:54 PM   #181
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But with the virus scandal and everything else nothing is normal.
The last time I've seen anything remotely resembling "normal" was back around 1972.
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Old 02-03-2022, 07:25 PM   #182
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We're staying in the El Centro, California area. Diesel is running between $4.55 to $5 per gallon.
It will almost certainly be higher in the Napa and Yosemite areas.
Diesel in Lee Vining CA (east entrance to Yosemite) was $5.25 in early October.
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Thanks for the CA fuel spot check. I handle the prices mentioned, but if they go up say another $1 per gal. by summer, oh boy!

I thought Alaska was energy-independent? Guess they still have to refine the crude.
Go on Gasbuddy, and you can see prices anywhere in the country, by all fuel grades/types. Good for trip planning.
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Old 02-04-2022, 12:31 PM   #184
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........I thought Alaska was energy-independent? Guess they still have to refine the crude.
Compared to most states, we are energy independent. We have 6 refineries located throughout the state. Whatever crude that can not be handled by the refineries is often exported. We also produce natural gas from gas wells. On the north end of our state is the National Petroleum Reserve (NPR-A).
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Old 02-04-2022, 12:42 PM   #185
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Compared to most states, we are energy independent. We have 6 refineries located throughout the state. Whatever crude that can not be handled by the refineries is often exported. We also produce natural gas from gas wells. On the north end of our state is the National Petroleum Reserve (NPR-A).
Less tax is a major player in the fuel prices. Now they are putting down natural gas because of methane. Bad like coal, donít you have any non polluting energy up there? We have electricity here🤣
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Go on Gasbuddy, and you can see prices anywhere in the country, by all fuel grades/types. Good for trip planning.
If they are reported. Lots of blanks.
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Diesel in Lee Vining CA (east entrance to Yosemite) was $5.25 in early October.
You canít enter that way this time of year. They are always high over there, not much competition.
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Less tax is a major player in the fuel prices. Now they are putting down natural gas because of methane. Bad like coal, donít you have any non polluting energy up there? We have electricity here🤣
Unless it's hydro-electric it's a secondary power source. You have to have something to generate electricity. It's not a "naturally occurring" element.
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If they are reported. Lots of blanks.
Or reported correctly. I have chased a good price only to find it is not. I think that owners will sometimes update prices wrongly figuring once you get there you will just go ahead and fill up anyway.
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Unless it's hydro-electric it's a secondary power source. You have to have something to generate electricity. It's not a "naturally occurring" element.
Thatís why I put the 😂. Most electricity is as dirty as itís source and more wasteful due to generator loses, line loses, charging loses and so on.
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Less tax is a major player in the fuel prices. Now they are putting down natural gas because of methane. Bad like coal, donít you have any non polluting energy up there? We have electricity here🤣
No,.... we don't have electricity up here. Haven't you heard?, we extract whale oil from blubber to light and heat our igloos.
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No,.... we don't have electricity up here. Haven't you heard?, we extract whale oil from blubber to light and heat our igloos.
You should burn that whale oil and make electricity so you could have some of those ZERO emission cars like we do! 🤥
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Oh oh, now you guys P'd off PETA!
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Gas price increase affecting your travel plans?

After tallying up my fuel bill for my recently completed 3,000 mile trip, I'd have to say "YOUR DARN RIGHT IT IS"!!

Since most of my trip was through California (2,000+ miles) I had to spend over $500 MORE on fuel than on the rest.

What was really aggravating is how at a station on the CA side of the AZ/CA border gas was selling for $5.50/gallon (87 Regular) and 20 miles away in AZ it was only $3.29.

Gas probably delivered from the same tank farm and maybe even by the same transport truck.

My future trips will be shorter and will definitely avoid CA.

Should here some of the comments by people from East filling up for the first time in CA. None can be printed here.
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Old 02-05-2022, 03:20 PM   #195
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Oh oh, now you guys P'd off PETA!
They're just P'd Off when someone sits down to a "Whopper, Big Mac, or Steak".

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Old 02-05-2022, 04:13 PM   #196
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My truck is 8 years old and has 160,000 miles on it. My truck is starting to need inexpensive but annoying repairs which is to be expected with a truck that age with that many miles. The issue I have is that sometimes these minor issues come up while on the road 1000+ miles from home with the camper in tow. When home, these problems are easy to deal with. They become much more problematic while traveling. As a result I am starting to lose faith in my truck's ability to hold things together while on a trip.
Why would a 2021 Duramax be 8 years old? Your signature says you have a 2021 Duramax Is this a misprint, or are you baiting responses?
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Why would a 2021 Duramax be 8 years old? Your signature says you have a 2021 Duramax Is this a misprint, or are you baiting responses?
What's to say he doesn't also have an 8 yo truck?
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Gas price increase affecting your travel plans?

After tallying up my fuel bill for my recently completed 3,000 mile trip, I'd have to say "YOUR DARN RIGHT IT IS"!!

Since most of my trip was through California (2,000+ miles) I had to spend over $500 MORE on fuel than on the rest.

What was really aggravating is how at a station on the CA side of the AZ/CA border gas was selling for $5.50/gallon (87 Regular) and 20 miles away in AZ it was only $3.29.

Gas probably delivered from the same tank farm and maybe even by the same transport truck.

My future trips will be shorter and will definitely avoid CA.

Should here some of the comments by people from East filling up for the first time in CA. None can be printed here.


We have avoided CA during our 4-5 month summer trips for 4 years now. Crazy expensive, way too many people, and mostly bad roads, besides the outrageous fuel prices.
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Why would a 2021 Duramax be 8 years old? Your signature says you have a 2021 Duramax Is this a misprint, or are you baiting responses?
I traded in my 2013 for a 2021 since I wrote that post.
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Just in the last 2-3 days diesel has gone up in Western NY about $.30 a gallon! I have no reason why, $3.89/3.99 a gal.
the price of oil has been creeping up every week, and inventory levels of the fuel are creeping down is the reason...

Early Feb OPEC increased quota production of crude by 400,000 brl a day, but it takes a little time to ramp up production and take delivery of the oil to the refineries...
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