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Old 11-11-2021, 12:14 PM   #81
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If you own an RV and mpg or gas prices will severely change your usage, you have the wrong hobby.
Like others have said, fuel prices have always fluctuated for many reasons. We go regardless of fuel prices. If the fuel prices cut into our trip budget too much, we cut back somewhere else. Same as every cost and budget in life.
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Old 11-11-2021, 03:13 PM   #83
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Hasnít changed for me. I donít keep track of spending that closely. I have a pass it on retirement. I just raise prices too. The demand for 100ll av gas must down as it is only $4.55 right now.
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Not while pulling a trailer.
Yes! Even pulling a trailer. I get at least 11 mpg. At $3.50/g, that's 32 cents per mile. You'd have to drive 42 miles out of your way before it's a wash on a $13.50 toll.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:01 AM   #85
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I actually hope the higher prices affect people’s plans, if they stay home I will have less trouble finding places to stay when we take our trip next summer ....
I'm betting that many folks will rethink where they go rather than whether. In other words, shorter trips, but the net overall demand for campsites won't change much. I hope I'm wrong.
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Yes! Even pulling a trailer. I get at least 11 mpg. At $3.50/g, that's 32 cents per mile. You'd have to drive 42 miles out of your way before it's a wash on a $13.50 toll.
Plus whatever 35+ minutes of your time is worth.
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Yes! Even pulling a trailer. I get at least 11 mpg. At $3.50/g, that's 32 cents per mile. You'd have to drive 42 miles out of your way before it's a wash on a $13.50 toll.
I should have been clearer with my comment. I meant you can’t cross most of the “free” bridges pulling a trailer. They typically have a weight limit (very low) and you’d be stopped before you got close to the bridge. I was talking to someone the other night who had been stopped just before the bridge while driving a stripped Sprinter.

P.S., the last time I crossed the River pulling my camper (before the increase) it cost me $2. That’s quite an increase!
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I did not know that the toll free bridges don't allow trailers. I crossed in Belvidere no problem. My trailer is maybe 4k lbs loaded. It's a small 20' single axle GeoPro, which is why I'm annoyed at being charged as much as a motorhome towing a trailer, just because I'm taller than 8 feet.
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Plus whatever 35+ minutes of your time is worth.
True that! But being retired now, I have more time than money!


As far as financial impact of high fuel prices, I think most RV'ers will continue to RV, but as noted above, especially those on fixed incomes, maybe travel closer to home, or less frequent trips.
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You made me curious, so I looked it up. Looks like my rig can cross any bridge.
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You made me curious, so I looked it up. Looks like my rig can cross any bridge.
My bad, I didnít realize the Belvedere bridge was that much larger than the other free bridges. I wonder, if youíre pulling a trailer, would they include the weight of the tow vehicle? Even if you could pull your trailer across the other bridges you probably wouldnít want to on some of these. Even with just my truck I have to fold in the drivers side mirror to avoid slapping oncoming traffic. And some, such as the Riegelsville bridge, there is a hairy 90 degree turn right before the bridge.

Thanks for the heads up on the toll. Next time I pull the camper into PA Iíll take the Belvedere bridge.
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I was wondering if they include weight of tow vehicle also. My F150 is somewhere between 2 and 2.5 tons, and trailer is 2 tons. The Belvidere bridge is 8 tons, so not even close to limit. I always tuck my mirror in on these narrow bridges, especially on my Corvette! I can't believe how many people don't.


Oh, sorry for turning thread into toll thread!
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An roads, bridges or tunnels I travel on with my camper need;


12' clearance or higher
support 9 tons or more
min width allowed of 9'
max length 50' or more
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For me up here, itís more about the tolls. I just discovered that crossing the bridge from New Jersey to Pennsylvania over the Delaware river, which should be $3.50, cost me $13.50, even though I am towing a small single axle trailer under 4000 pounds. The $13.50 fee is the same cost as a two axle motorHome Pulling a trailer! So why do I fit in that category? Scum bags at the toll authority have declared that any vehicle over 8 feet in height be charged at that rate. That is virtually every travel trailer made except for teardrop trailer. And we just have to sit back and eat it.
Cost me 20 bucks to cross the Mackinaw bridge to get to Mackinaw City. Towing my car on a dolly they got me for 5 axles. They even counted the car axle that was on the dolly. Talk about scum bags.
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Mid sixties in Ohio gas was .25 a gallon unless there was a gas war on the Ohio/Michigan border, then you could get it for .18 a gallon.
The Evergreen Tavern had 10 beers for a dollar! Oh,Baby!
You are spot on with the .249 Gas and Diesel. most tavern's sold .10 draft beers during "Happy Hour" mostly Buckeye Beer. I worked 3rd shift at a truck stop at Exit 4 off the Ohio Turnpike (Maumee) to get through school. Pumped thousands of gallons of diesel for .249/ gal. Typically fixed 1 or 2 flats (semi truck tires) a night for $5.00 each. All with hand tools and jacks, outside, year round, any weather. We did have a Air Impact if the hose reached.

Do I like the current gas pricing...it could have been avoided, but when it is time to go, we will.
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No matter the price of gas, i'm stilll traveling and camping, been doing it for 20 + years...
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No matter the price of gas, i'm stilll traveling and camping, been doing it for 20 + years...
I can't say no matter what the cost of gas is, I'm not wealthy enough to say that. But I can say I would revert to camping out of my pickup truck instead of cutting mileage in half by towing a camper. That is, if this RV life hasn't sissified me. 3 years into it, would be hard to go back to tent life!
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True that! But being retired now, I have more time than money!


As far as financial impact of high fuel prices, I think most RV'ers will continue to RV, but as noted above, especially those on fixed incomes, maybe travel closer to home, or less frequent trips.
Or plan trips to destinations where they stay longer with more to do.



As for gasoline/diesel prices, I believe that the current upward pressure on prices will eventually lessen and they will come back down to a more reasonable level. Crude prices are up due to the pandemic's disruption of just about everything related to production, transport, and refining. Add to this the number of refineries and production platforms around the Gulf of Mexico that went off line due to storms with one closely following another.

Because "fuel" affects just about everything in our lives today, not just recreational travel, there will be a lot of effort put into reducing the upward pressure on prices. Wells that were "capped" due to production prices outstripping market prices will be brought back into production. Exploration and drilling will resume as market prices increase. In the end prices will level off and we'll all adjust.

Just like we all have since the early 70's.
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Old 11-13-2021, 05:19 PM   #100
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I was wondering if they include weight of tow vehicle also.
Unless you have one of those 20+ foot tongues on your trailer like a lot of dump truck/dump trailer combo's have, the truck is included.


I got surprised one time when I left the State Highway to enter a Forest Service Campground. Bridge across river next to campground was limited to 12,000#.

Weight of my truck and trailer (which both fit on the bridge deck at the same time) weighed 11,980 when I weighed at the closed State Patrol scale when I left.

If I'd been towing with a 3/4 ton truck I'd have been overweight
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