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Old 11-16-2020, 10:21 PM   #41
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Dealerships Surviving?

Shopped a local dealership this past weekend for a friend. They had inventory, just no where near the inventory they usually have. Salesperson said it wasn't a supply problem - they were still getting units, they were just selling them as soon as they get them on the lot. All dealerships are having a banner year for sales. During our most recent campground stay I noticed an incredible number of brand new units (no tags yet).

I do agree the real struggle may be in the next couple of years. I believe many of these newbies who are buying their first RV will quickly become disenchanted with the camping lifestyle, the repairs and service required to maintain an RV and the increasing difficulty with finding sites at campgrounds. Many of these units will be coming on the market in the next two years. With a huge used inventory, I would see that as being the dealers future problem.
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Old 11-16-2020, 11:18 PM   #42
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I had an enlightening discussion on this topic with a local dealer yesterday and he confirmed some of the observations above. The reality of their business right now is that he is ordering everything he normally orders for inventory, but because of the short supply, customers are buying the units on order. They never make it to inventory, thus their inventory cost is far below normal. He said of all the deliveries scheduled for the next six months, over 90% of those units are already sold. The salespeople are still selling. They're just selling futures because everything they had in inventory has been sold.



With regard to service, I sought assistance from the same dealership back in July and was told that it would be six weeks before they could even look at my trailer. A subsequent service outlet I contacted said they were booked for at least four weeks and every other service center in the area was the same.


It's just a great year for the RV industry.
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:03 AM   #43
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If he is anything like my own dealer....this has been his best year yet.,,,with strong sales and more on order. The only downside for this will be increased difficulty in finding a spot in a campground.
With well over 400,000 new RV's sold this past year and very few new campgrounds opened, finding a spot is TRULY going to be difficult. I know of only one new RV park that opened last year, in Colorado, and very pricey. I'm sure there were more across the nation but it's not going to be easy. Happy camping.
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Old 11-17-2020, 05:12 AM   #44
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If lot is generally full and now empty I would think they had a banner sales year and should be in a good financial situation. With new inventory on the way and what appears to be strong demand with low consumer borrowing rates should be another good season
Good point. I wonder though if this next season might be the year of the “used RV”? Think of how many first time RVer’s bought rigs to travel during COVID who maybe never camped in their lives or pulled a trailer. It might not be all they thought it would be. Trailering especially can be a lot of work if you aren’t used to it. I would think this may cut down on sales of new RVs especially since a vaccine is looming. I hope not! Just my thoughts.
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Old 11-17-2020, 08:07 AM   #45
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It’s crazy, we put a deposit down on a rockwood pop up in September, and we are still waiting for it to arrive at our dealer. I hope we get it before they start salting the roads for winter weather (we’re in the northeast).
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Old 11-17-2020, 08:09 AM   #46
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I "abdicated" last Friday myself after 4 years in the army, then working rotating 12-hour shifts starting in 1980. I am going to enjoy life for a while.

What I wonder is: 1) When will the RV supply chain be reestablished? and 2) Will the people that bought RVs to escape the virus this year decide they love it, or will there be a glut of used 2020 RVs for sale in 2021?


I am holding off on buying an RV until I see how these questions pan out. (Besides, the one's I want are not in stock and delivery date is unknown.)


I wish dealers and small businesses good luck in these hard times.


Be well everyone.
I don’t know that anything will ever return to normal, hence the tossing around of the term “the new normal”. We are being prepared to accept some permanent destruction. However, next season, I expect a glut of barely used RVs to hit the market, as many new RVers learn that they are not suited for the spartan and self-sufficient lifestyle that is RVing. They will become easily annoyed with all the little challenges that define the activity.

This glut of hardly-used RVs will dramatically drive down prices of used RVs—and if manufacturing has recovered (I don’t think it will have) new RVs also. I won’t be in the market to buy at that time, but really wish I were. This season is the time to sell. Next season is the time to buy.

Welcome to the ranks of the abdicated. I suspect we are more numerous than folks realize, since many of us won’t ever be vocal about having done so. Several folks I know are saying, “To Hell with it. I’ve had enough. I’m out,” making the “new normal” even more challenging for those still in it.

I’m sticking it out for a few months because I have three bonuses coming, and I have learned a legal way to raid my FSA for about 2 grand that I won’t have contributed. Then, “I’m out!” And, as Greg said, “Be well everyone.”
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Old 11-17-2020, 08:21 AM   #47
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My dealer seems to be doing well between service department and selling of new and used camper. Not a big dealer but does a good business. Later RJD
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Old 11-17-2020, 08:23 AM   #48
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We just ordered an SOB Class C from the local dealer. This is our second purchase of a new RV from them. They have been in business since 1951, so they know how to treat customers. Plus, we have had the RV in their service center several times and they always did good work.
If you are nearby, check out Bill Plemmons RV in either Raleigh or Winston Salem, NC. You will not be disappointed.
Well looks like you will not be at the mini rally next year with the purchase of an SOB Later RJD
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We will be at the mini rally!!! As it is not a FROG sponsored event the FR only does not apply. Besides, we are the only Charter Members of the mini rally.
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We will be at the mini rally!!! As it is not a FROG sponsored event the FR only does not apply. Besides, we are the only Charter Members of the mini rally.
Well glade to hear you will be there and that you chose to continue camping. Later RJD
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Old 11-18-2020, 04:25 PM   #51
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... However, next season, I expect a glut of barely used RVs to hit the market, as many new RVers learn that they are not suited for the spartan and self-sufficient lifestyle that is RVing. ... ”
Spartan? Our camper may not be a 40 footer but we camp like rock stars. Eat finely prepared food, kayak, ride motorcycles, do whatever we want and drink fine beverages to end the day.

I agree there will be many barely used campers for sale in the next two year...if they camp like you.

In all seriousness...I think there will be a large increase in used campers next year.
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Old 11-19-2020, 08:51 AM   #52
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We seriously discussed selling our camper this year and waiting for the upcoming used camper sale to buy again. A few thing dissuaded us from this course of action.
1) I have spend a decent amount of time installing mods on our camper and have gotten it pretty well dialed in for us.
2) Many of the COVID campers will probably not have operated or maintained their campers correctly which could caused added expenses beyond the purchase price. Potentially a false economy.
3) Campers have QC issues in normal times. The 2020 built campers have been thrown together more hastily than normal. On top of this dealers/service shops are very busy and any issues that need to be repaired under warranty probably will not get fixed by the original owner. I believe the same backlog will exist when all of these campers change hands. This means significant downtime.
4) Laziness. I really do not want to have go through the purchasing process again when I already have a camper I love.

However, if I was already in the market or planning on purchasing next year, it would be a great time to buy.
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We seriously discussed selling our camper this year and waiting for the upcoming used camper sale to buy again. A few thing dissuaded us from this course of action.
1) I have spend a decent amount of time installing mods on our camper and have gotten it pretty well dialed in for us.
2) Many of the COVID campers will probably not have operated or maintained their campers correctly which could caused added expenses beyond the purchase price. Potentially a false economy.
3) Campers have QC issues in normal times. The 2020 built campers have been thrown together more hastily than normal. On top of this dealers/service shops are very busy and any issues that need to be repaired under warranty probably will not get fixed by the original owner. I believe the same backlog will exist when all of these campers change hands. This means significant downtime.
4) Laziness. I really do not want to have go through the purchasing process again when I already have a camper I love.

However, if I was already in the market or planning on purchasing next year, it would be a great time to buy.


We feel the same way. Ours was a PIA for a few years, we have done a lot, and now we love it. There is a big learning curve with these things, who knows which virus avoider was able to navigate it or who decided to just get rid of it.

Just for information, we are in the Boise, ID area and RV dealer lots look packed to the gills. I don't know a thing about their sales. Thanks be to God, I don't know how their service departments are doing either.
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