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Old 10-26-2020, 03:43 PM   #41
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We have not been fortunate enough to make it out west yet so I want make sure I understand. It is illegal to have 5 cars behind you when traveling the posted speed limit. So you must pull over to allow them passed so they can go above the posted speed limit. If that is the case can someone give me the meaning of the signs with the big numbers posted on it?
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Old 10-26-2020, 03:49 PM   #42
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Hmm...

I usually find myself being held up.
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Old 10-26-2020, 03:53 PM   #43
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There's the good-natured community-minded spirit. F 'em as long as I'm happy.
If I am doing 65 in a 65 mile an hour zone Iím not gonna prull off the side of the road. There is no reason to. If I am doing 55 in a 65 Find a safe place to move over. It has nothing to do with being happy. It has everything to do with obeying traffic laws.Apparently, you are another one who believes that laws are just suggestions.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:00 PM   #44
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Back up

Short story. A two lane toad I travel a lot has mostly no passing zones. Two lane, 55mph. I came up on a line of cars doing 15-20 mph with cars starting to line up behind them. No one would pass. After 4-6 miles of this patience is in short supply
At last the ring leader turns off. I see a VERY OLD gentleman turning off and two cars behond him is a long line of cars, me included. Directly behind him was a Sheriffs car. I blew the horn and went on. I wanted to ask the deputy why he didnít pull the old man over to do a wellness check do the rest of us could go about our business. God I hate slow cars (10-15 mph) below he speed limit. Farm equipment and disabled vehicles excluded.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:02 PM   #45
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Posted speed limits are there for a reason. Theyíre not there for a suggestion. If Iím going to speed limit I donít pull over. Why should I? Iím going to maximal speed allowed by law if Iím going to slow for you when Iím doing the speed limit you find another route.
It's "all about you'. Running into more and more folks like that.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:06 PM   #46
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It's "all about you'. Running into more and more folks like that.
Don't like people obeying the law? ......Running into more and more folks like that
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:17 PM   #47
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Unless I'm on some hilly winding road where passing is nearly impossible I don't pull over. People will just have to wait.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:25 PM   #48
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It's "all about you'. Running into more and more folks like that.
You mean folks who think they shouldn't break the law?
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:28 PM   #49
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If I am doing 65 in a 65 mile an hour zone Iím not gonna prull off the side of the road. There is no reason to. If I am doing 55 in a 65 Find a safe place to move over. It has nothing to do with being happy. It has everything to do with obeying traffic laws.Apparently, you are another one who believes that laws are just suggestions.
Yes there is. To let people by. To be courteous. It's no secret that 99% of the time you get 5 mph over the posted speed limit, and that's usually the going speed, sometimes more depending on where you are. If you are creating a hazardous situation behind you (and cars bunched up and annoyed behind you absolutely is a hazardous situation), you have a moral obligation to pull over and let them by if safe to do so.

You aren't a police officer (well maybe you are, I don't know you, but you're not on duty in your rig) and your job isn't to enforce the speed limits. If others want to go faster than you, just let the by. Create a positive environment on the road, not a negative one that leads to frustration and road rage. There are a lot of crazy people on the road. Don't give them a reason to target you.
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Yes there is. To let people by. To be courteous. It's no secret that 99% of the time you get 5 mph over the posted speed limit, and that's usually the going speed, sometimes more depending on where you are. If you are creating a hazardous situation behind you (and cars bunched up and annoyed behind you absolutely is a hazardous situation), you have a moral obligation to pull over and let them by if safe to do so.

You aren't a police officer (well maybe you are, I don't know you, but you're not on duty in your rig) and your job isn't to enforce the speed limits. If others want to go faster than you, just let the by. Create a positive environment on the road, not a negative one that leads to frustration and road rage. There are a lot of crazy people on the road. Don't give them a reason to target you.
Ya lost me at 'moral obligation'. The rest of your argument doesn't make much more sense either. But everyone is different
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:35 PM   #51
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Never run across this. Does this apply to vehicles doing or exceeding the speed limit and consequently delaying traffic? I wish it applied to those dogging along in the left doing the speed limit on the interstates!

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Ya lost me at 'moral obligation'. The rest of your argument doesn't make much more sense either. But everyone is different
Don't confuse not making sense with failing to understand. It makes plenty of sense, even if you can't understand it.

Moral obligation: A duty which one owes, and which he ought to perform, but which he is not legally bound to fulfill.
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Don't confuse not making sense with failing to understand. It makes plenty of sense, even if you can't understand it.

Moral obligation: A duty which one owes, and which he ought to perform, but which he is not legally bound to fulfill.
I see what you did there. Even someone as slow as myself understands the phrase, but questions its application to the subject at hand......
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In Montana the speed limit on a two lane road is 70 unless otherwise posted. You are also allowed to exceed the posted speed limit on a 2 lane road by 10mph when passing. Holding up more than 5 vehicles is illegal.
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Yes there is. To let people by. To be courteous. It's no secret that 99% of the time you get 5 mph over the posted speed limit, and that's usually the going speed, sometimes more depending on where you are. If you are creating a hazardous situation behind you (and cars bunched up and annoyed behind you absolutely is a hazardous situation), you have a moral obligation to pull over and let them by if safe to do so.



You aren't a police officer (well maybe you are, I don't know you, but you're not on duty in your rig) and your job isn't to enforce the speed limits. If others want to go faster than you, just let the by. Create a positive environment on the road, not a negative one that leads to frustration and road rage. There are a lot of crazy people on the road. Don't give them a reason to target you.


Does the speed limit sign have small print saying itís ok to go 5 mph faster????
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Old 10-26-2020, 05:28 PM   #57
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Citation, please.

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Signs all along the highways. Just read them.

Same law here in WA on 2-lanes. Usually a sign advisins "Slow Vehicle Turnout Ahead" followed by "Slow Vehicles Must Use Turnout for 5 or more vehicles behind".

As for pulling over on the shoulder if no turnouts? Only if paved and at least 12' wide.

Wait until you're driving in farm country and the tractors speed down the highway at 20 mph with 12-14' wide implements behind.
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I am generally always doing the speed limit or up to 5 mph over. So I do not worry about what is behind me much. If I am on a 2 lane divided highway I will pull off if it is convenient and safe.
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Just to throw a wrinkle in to this conversation...in California, isn't the speed limit for vehicles towing trailers 55 mph? That means that you may be legally restricted from going the same speed as "normal" vehicles, rendering the "I'm going the speed limit" argument moot (unless all two-lane roads in CA are 55 mph or less...I really don't know).

Edit to add: [Regarding the mod's edit to my post...hey, I was just responding to the reference in post #26 lol]
Most states that post a lower truck speed also consider that speed to be followed when towing------- ANYTHING. TT'S, Utility trailers, 5-ers, and even Toads.

55 in CA, 60 here in WA.
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If I am doing 65 in a 65 mile an hour zone Iím not gonna prull off the side of the road. There is no reason to. If I am doing 55 in a 65 Find a safe place to move over. It has nothing to do with being happy. It has everything to do with obeying traffic laws.Apparently, you are another one who believes that laws are just suggestions.
I've always said that speed limit signs would have more meaning if the basic fine for speeding started at $1,000 and there was no "speed allowance" allowed officers.

Always puzzled me when I read how many, if not all, officers don't stop cars going less than 10 mph over a speed clearly posted as the LIMIT.

The PROPER safe speed should be posted and enforced.
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