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Old 08-12-2021, 04:38 PM   #21
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Even the 6.7 has some issues. I know. I had two of them blow up. A 2012 sucked a valve and a 2018 had an oil pump failure. Both required total engine replacement.
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Old 08-12-2021, 06:07 PM   #22
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The tranny in my 1997 Ford Ranger is built by Mitsubishi it says so on the tranny in big raised letters.
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Old 08-12-2021, 08:39 PM   #23
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The 6.0 and 6.4 were joint efforts.

Most of the issues surrounding the 6.0 (especially in later model years) were around the oil and EGR coolers. Those have been solved completely by the aftermarket or through Ford.

The 6.4 had more involvement from Ford and is a mess no matter how you slice it. All of the issues inherent with the 6.0, and some new ones thrown in. I have a friend that had to put over $12k in his.
Yeah, and it's too bad too. The 6.4L was a towing beast. I loved my 2008 Lariat, but it had one too many trips to the dealer, and I traded it out of fear of a "final" trip. For a 2011 with the 6.7L...see "the rest of the story" below.

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Even the 6.7 has some issues. I know. I had two of them blow up. A 2012 sucked a valve and a 2018 had an oil pump failure. Both required total engine replacement.
Yep. I had my 2011 for 8 years with only a couple of minor issues fixed under warranty. Then, with only 78K on it, it "sucked a valve", as your 2012 did. I couldn't see spending so much on a new engine, so I traded it for my 2019. I have high hopes for the 2019, and plan on it being my last truck (famous last words??).
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Old 08-12-2021, 11:13 PM   #24
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The tranny in my 1997 Ford Ranger is built by Mitsubishi it says so on the tranny in big raised letters.
You sure it didn't say Mazda? One of those smaller trucks were built on a joint venture between the two.

Ford used Mazda manuals in the F150 too. Base models with the 300 six and 5 speed all used Mazda transmissions.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:29 AM   #25
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Sounds similar to International Harvester and their Travall. Parts from all the major car manufacturers. I had the replace the rear end. Went to the local junk yard and got one. Whoops! The original was from Chrysler and the one from the junk yard was from Ford. It mounted fine and all lined up, but a different lug nut pattern for the wheels. I had the get different rims. I ended up with two spare tires. One for the front and one for the rear. Crazy.
Yep, I had a 75 International Scout. What a great vehicle when off road. I permanently took the top off. But the guys at Pep Boys hated me....
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:38 AM   #26
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The 6.0 and 6.4 were joint efforts.

Most of the issues surrounding the 6.0 (especially in later model years) were around the oil and EGR coolers. Those have been solved completely by the aftermarket or through Ford.

The 6.4 had more involvement from Ford and is a mess no matter how you slice it. All of the issues inherent with the 6.0, and some new ones thrown in. I have a friend that had to put over $12k in his.
They also had an insufficient number of head bolts. Major design flaw.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:44 AM   #27
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Ever look under the hood of an 80's Jeep Cherokee? 4 cyl engine from GM, brake booster and master cyl from Chrysler, Ford AC components.... used to hate to see them come into the shop. The only positive was that once we figured out what we were looking at, they were super easy to find parts for!
Auto makers have shared components for years, ever used a Hollander manual? That will show you.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:47 AM   #28
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1969 I bought a new F100 Ford pickup. Found out 4 years later the power steering pump and reservoir were GM. Then had to replace a rear axle bearing and discovered that the truck had a Dodge differential
You had a 1969 F100 that did NOT have a Ford 9”?
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Old 08-13-2021, 08:33 AM   #29
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You had a 1969 F100 that did NOT have a Ford 9”?
Back in those years if you had an F100 with a 4sp, you had Ford transmission, if had an F250 with a 4sp you had a Dodge transmission. New Process made the heavier duty transmissions, which was a Chrysler company.
If you keep going back you will find that both Ford and Chrysler had their bodies made by Briggs, Walter O. Briggs died in the early 50s and Chrysler bought everything.
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Old 08-13-2021, 09:03 AM   #30
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So.. Nissan is 43% owned by Renault.. does that mean you're driving a Frenchie? Boy, they know how to make some awesome cars!!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN2330T6
And Ram is owned by Fiat.
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Old 08-13-2021, 10:23 AM   #31
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And Ram is owned by Fiat.
And now that has all changed just a few months ago.
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And Jaguar and Land Rover are owned by Tata Motors in India and Volvo is owned by Zhejiang Geely Holding of China....
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Old 08-13-2021, 11:28 AM   #33
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I'll bet earlier Ford owners rarely, if ever, bragged about their "Corn Binder engines".
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I find myself usually in agreement with you, Mike, but I have to diverge here. I just posted in another thread a couple of days ago about how much I liked my IH 400 ci diesel in my 1984 F250. I got 20 mpg empty and 15 mpg towing with that engine (four on the floor). I still brag about it.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:21 PM   #34
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And now that has all changed just a few months ago.
Didn't know that (obviously).

Who bought them?

Edit: I see now. It's a Fiat/Peugeot blend.
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Old 08-16-2021, 06:32 PM   #35
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Found it interesting that Ford Power Stroke diesel engines are really Navistar engines (Formerly International Harvester) which in 2020 was purchased by a holding company named Traton which is owned by Volkswagen.

Some truck owners brag about their engines being Cummins but I don't see any Ford owners bragging about their Volkswagen engines. LOL

Funny how mixed the world of commerce has become.
You are 12 years out of date. Ford Powerstroke engines are Ford built since 2010. Funny how some people are so out of touch. You probably don't even know Cummins is not made by Stelantis.
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Ford has built their own Powerstroke engines since 2010 in the 2011 model year. Volkswagen bought Navistar after 2011 so Ford trucks never had Volkswagen engines. In addition, Ford builds their own engines in every vehicle they make. You are so mistaken.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:00 PM   #37
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Found it interesting that Ford Power Stroke diesel engines are really Navistar engines (Formerly International Harvester) which in 2020 was purchased by a holding company named Traton which is owned by Volkswagen.

Some truck owners brag about their engines being Cummins but I don't see any Ford owners bragging about their Volkswagen engines. LOL

Funny how mixed the world of commerce has become.
I'll gladly brag about my 6.0 Powerstroke in my 06 F350. No one want's to hear that though. Parts are crazy expensive though. I really like Cummins because parts are cheaper but otherwise all the Powerstroke, Duramax, and Cummins are all good. My commuter car is a VW with a 2.0 diesel, I could brag about that one too.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:26 PM   #38
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I know that earlier Chevy Duramax were an Izuzu engine.

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I wonder if it was. A lot of the Isuzu badged Diesel motors are actually made By Yanmar
The Chevy Luv diesel was actually a Yanmar. They still use that motor on Crafco Tar Kettles.
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Lucas—The Prince of Darkness!! Thank god for VW dieselgate. We have a wonderful 2913 Touareg TDI. VW fixed unit, and along with Bosch sent us a check for $8500. That are great SUVs.
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Oops. 2013.
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