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02-16-2019, 06:44 PM
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Location: 8300 Feet - Rocky Mountains
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Originally Posted by dr911
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I didn't see where these are for use with a drinking water hose. Did you research that and find them to be safe?
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The key difference in "drinking water" ratings vs "not rated" is in the soft plastics of the hose itself. Pliability comes in a number of ways. Many soft plastics use phthalates or other softeners that transfer to the food or water source...especially when heated. A hose in direct sun might be heated. These are endocrine disruptors and emit chemicals that mimic estrogen - xenoestrogens.
Some g arden hoses also contain lead or other contaminants. If it comes from China, as almost all of this stuff does, there's a good bet that it contains lead.
Plastic fittings, on the other hand, tend to be made of PVC or ABS...harder rigid plastics that don't emit toxins. Plus the "exposure" from an adapter fitting is tiny in comparison to a 25' length of hose. More on plastic plumbing.
Soft, flexible plastics and pseudo-rubbers are notoriously bad...especially for little kids because lead is bad for a developing child and xenoestrogens literally alter their development - among other things, feminizing males.
Bear in mind that all of us older folk swam in this ****. From DDT and all other organo-chlorine pesticides, including lindane in kids' Kwell lice shampoo, to PCBs and many other chemicals, this stuff was as common and pervasive as asbestos and lead when we were younger.
But, as one of the other posters said, I've been drinking from the garden hose all my life. The key is that the "dose is the poison." Do it all the time and it matters. Do it rarely, and it doesn't....at least not usually.
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2020 Jayco Jay Feather X-213
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02-16-2019, 06:46 PM
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P.S. I ran an environmental organization for years, and I testified before the EPA on the hazards of endocrine disruptors 20 years prior to the EPA finally taking action against them...especially in baby bottles, drinking water bottles, and so on.
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2020 Jayco Jay Feather X-213
previously 2014 Forest River/Rockwood HW 277
2006 Ram 1500 4WD Crew with Firestone Airbags
Every weekend boondocking in the National Forests or at Lake Vallecito.
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02-16-2019, 07:06 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Deland, Florida
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I use the 90 degree fitting at the trailer with quick connect fittings.
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02-16-2019, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmoore13
P.S. I ran an environmental organization for years, and I testified before the EPA on the hazards of endocrine disruptors 20 years prior to the EPA finally taking action against them...especially in baby bottles, drinking water bottles, and so on.
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Thank you, jimmore13, for putting that all together.
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02-16-2019, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Valencia Pa
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Rubber hose seals need to replaced often. They are cheap, and easily changed. Plus 90 degree hose elbow connection and you will be good to go.
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02-16-2019, 11:45 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South East
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90 degree fitting and zero g hose. I think Walmart has one similar for less.
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02-17-2019, 09:16 AM
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Location: Dunn, NC
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How long does it take for a hose NOT approved for drinking water to kill a person? I’m 71 and wondering how long I have left.
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02-17-2019, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formerFR
early on, in our initial travels, I grew to dislike the idea of having to constantly 'attach' a hose to our wetbay panel every time we hooked up to water. If there's a 'leak', the last place you want it is at this connection - you are constantly connecting a somewhat 'heavy' water hose to a horizontal connection, though the weight of the water and hose is constantly pulling 'down' on the connector - no wonder it's the first the leak.
So, I purchased a simply short 3' hose, and leave IT always connected to the wetbay connector - I connect the OTHER end to the outside water hose instead. This short hose never has to be disconnected from the coach, meaning that it's less likely to leak from the constant connect/disconnect routine. I put it on tight, 'cause now I don't have to take it off.
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The problem with that is the screen never gets cleaned . so one time you will hook up and have no water and wonder why . you'll have to pull your permanent hose and clean and or replace the screen
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02-17-2019, 12:47 PM
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Location: Rolla, MO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pdqparalegal1
How long does it take for a hose NOT approved for drinking water to kill a person? I’m 71 and wondering how long I have left.
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Brilliant!
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02-18-2019, 08:59 AM
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Location: Stockdale Texas
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02-18-2019, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilco
I use a brass 90 degree fitting on the trailer hose connection. That way the hose is straight and is not bent where it enters the trailer.
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Yep! I've used a 90 elbow since 2007 and have never had a leaky hose. Still have the hose we bought in 2007 and keep it as a spare and I keep a pack of washers on hand.
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02-18-2019, 09:11 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What about the taste?
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Originally Posted by pdqparalegal1
How long does it take for a hose NOT approved for drinking water to kill a person? I’m 71 and wondering how long I have left.
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I'm less worried about the toxicity than the taste. DW is fussy about the taste. Even with a USF-approved hose, she's had to learn to run and toss a bucket of water (to flush the hose) each time we return to the trailer after having been away for a week or two.
I'm thinking a non-USF hose might leave a stronger taste.
Larry
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02-18-2019, 09:20 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pdqparalegal1
How long does it take for a hose NOT approved for drinking water to kill a person? I’m 71 and wondering how long I have left.
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72 years.
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02-18-2019, 10:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: New Lenox, Ill. (Home of Proud Americans)
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Water taste
I use the potable water hoses because they don't leave a taste. Of course I drank water from a garden hose when I was a kid. I didn't like the taste then either. Maybe the chemicals in a regular garden hose are bad for you, I don't know. It's all about the taste for me. I drink, cook, and wash the dishes with the RV water and it needs to taste good to me.
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02-21-2019, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: La Mirada, CA
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My water connection behind a plastic foot is tilted slightly so I use a 45 degree brass fitting. I also have quick connect fittings on both ends of hoses and switched to Apex Zero G 5/8” flex hose. I have 2 25’ hoses and they weigh practicly nothing and take little room to store. I also have one in a different color for cleanout.
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2005 Cardinal 33TS-LX
Trail Air pin box
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02-21-2019, 08:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 124
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I've been trying to stop the constant drip and leaks for years.
Sometimes I get lucky with only a small drip to where I can't get it to work.
When that happens I will fill my fresh water tank and use my onboard pump.
Besides, my city water connection is directly over my storage door on the left front side of the coach. You can tell that whoever decided to put it there, has never been Rving.
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02-21-2019, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Georgetown, TX
Posts: 337
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Hose leak
The brass male ends of most hoses can be fragile - their contact surface with the seal ring is very small. If the end is dinged a bit they will leak. I have solved this by cutting off the brass end and replacing it with plastic hose end repair type (got mine at Walmart). These tend to have a large, flat contact surface against the sealing ring plus they won't get bent. After this zero leaks from the male end.
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02-21-2019, 11:40 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Granbury, Texas
Posts: 176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilco
I use a brass 90 degree fitting on the trailer hose connection. That way the hose is straight and is not bent where it enters the trailer.
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I'm with everyone else who has this and extra washers.
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02-22-2019, 09:53 AM
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#40
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Alamo Tx
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Water hose
Quote:
Originally Posted by revbilly
I'm with everyone else who has this and extra washers.
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I bought a swivel connector at Home Depot It will bend any direction to relive pressure on water inlet. It stays connected and the 1 1/2 inch extension gets it out so I can get my hand around it to tighten connections I am using a hose I bought in 1962 , have replaced the ends but hose has never leaked
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