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08-22-2015, 12:27 PM
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it's going to be 28 tonight - do i need to worry?
forest river cardinal model 3825 - forecast is to drop to 28 tonight. rv park says we have to disconnect the fresh water line from their spigot. obviously I will put some water in the fresh tank. I will turn on the tank heaters. i'll turn the heater on low. do I need to worry about anything freezing and rupturing? what about the fresh water drain that extends below the trailer and is exposed? how can you put water in the fresh tank without water going down into the exposed fresh water drain?
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08-22-2015, 12:37 PM
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I would think you'll be fine with a low of 28 degrees. At most it'll be below freezing for a couple/few hours and the warmer water in the tank (warmer due to tank heaters) will keep the water above freezing. If it were going to be colder for a longer period of time, you can always open the fresh water drain so it just barely drips and the warmer water passing thru the valve will keep the exposed drain valve from freezing up.
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08-22-2015, 12:44 PM
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Where are you camping with 28 degrees tonight?
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08-22-2015, 01:12 PM
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west Yellowstone - rv park says 28 tonight - yahoo says 30
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08-22-2015, 01:34 PM
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If you follow such things It is just for one night as per the weather channel forecast.
It will be above freezing for the low Sunday and next week.
6666 above sea level, yes!
As for the drains I would just wrap them with some newspaper and duct tape.
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08-22-2015, 08:04 PM
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They tell me that if you have PEX lines they can freeze and not burst. I will find out sometime when winter comes
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08-22-2015, 08:12 PM
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We've camped multiple times in the upper 20s and did nothing to prepare. If it were me, I wouldn't worry at all. 28-30 is not a hard freeze.
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08-22-2015, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
They tell me that if you have PEX lines they can freeze and not burst. I will find out sometime when winter comes
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They told you the truth the lines will (Probably Survive) but the (Fittings and End Caps) will break !  Youroo!! 
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08-22-2015, 08:23 PM
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When you disconnect your hose from the CG spigot, drain it or bring it inside, as it will freeze if left outside with water in it. If it does, you won't get water right away in the morning.
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08-22-2015, 08:49 PM
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Agree with KFX. A couple of hours of outside air at 28 degrees will not bring your water temp down to freezing.
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08-22-2015, 09:04 PM
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Cedar Creek says there campers can get to zero and no freeze so I will see. They advertise that
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08-22-2015, 09:51 PM
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thanks for all the advice! current forecast is now 27 degrees. I looked under the kitchen and bathroom sink and they have pex lines (blue and red) with crimped metal fittings. disconnected the fresh water hose and drained it. tank heaters are on. we'll be ok but this is a first for me. we don't have this type of problem at home!!! we've had this trailer for only a few months and I am still learning things every day!
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08-23-2015, 02:37 AM
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Quote:
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Agree with KFX. A couple of hours of outside air at 28 degrees will not bring your water temp down to freezing.
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X2. You'll be fine.
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08-23-2015, 04:14 AM
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Quote:
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Cedar Creek says there campers can get to zero and no freeze so I will see. They advertise that
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Where is that in writing, I have never heard that before, that would make it a four season trailer, which FR keeps saying they only make a three season, I hope it wasn't a salesperson who told you that?... 
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08-23-2015, 04:24 AM
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Quote:
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thanks for all the advice! current forecast is now 27 degrees. I looked under the kitchen and bathroom sink and they have pex lines (blue and red) with crimped metal fittings. disconnected the fresh water hose and drained it. tank heaters are on. we'll be ok but this is a first for me. we don't have this type of problem at home!!! we've had this trailer for only a few months and I am still learning things every day!
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All went well? 
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08-23-2015, 06:22 AM
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Where is that in writing, I have never heard that before, that would make it a four season trailer, which FR keeps saying they only make a three season, I hope it wasn't a salesperson who told you that?... |
That's on Cedar Creek website, it says it's a four season camper
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08-23-2015, 06:32 AM
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Cold room
tested to zero
degree Fahrenheit with standard insulation and heating pads with no tank freezing!
From CC brochure. No details on how long it was in there.
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08-23-2015, 06:52 AM
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Wonder why they made you disconnect. We usually leave connected and let a little water dip from main hose at the trailer connection. Never froze up. Later RJD
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08-23-2015, 07:17 AM
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Well went back on Cedar Creek website and it does not say four season, it says all season. It says camper will get to zero degrees and no freezing. The 30RL I had would get to zero and no freezing
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08-23-2015, 07:22 AM
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Wonder why they made you disconnect. We usually leave connected and let a little water dip from main hose at the trailer connection. Never froze up. Later RJD |
Most places I camp at in winter will tell me to unhook from water, if the water pipe freezes and burst and I am hooked up then I pay for fixing water pipe
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