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09-12-2017, 08:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Portage wi
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In wisconsin it's one of the few tags that stay with the vehicle
But becuase peopel wouldn't register the vehicles you now have to go onto the dmv website and say you sold it and give the dl number I'd number or ssn of the person who bought it
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09-12-2017, 08:52 PM
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Twisted sisters! Not funny and just goes to show you how fast people can ruin something! Sad!
I had my own surprise today. Found out that some repair shop and I don't know which one swapped out my 4 rear 2013 Michelin LTX tires for 2003 tires (according to the tire code) of the same type. So not only do I have to spend hundreds on new tires but the swapper put my families life in danger with 14 year old tires
Never really noticed until closer inspection revealed all the sidewall cracks and obviously would have been a very dangerous situation if driving thousands of miles on a trip.
Two sad stories!
Bob Brown
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09-12-2017, 10:24 PM
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RetiredRVer
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82
Don't have to turn them in in Nebraska. It's up to the new owner to take in the B.O.S. and get a new registrations and plates.
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Since the trailer also had a title, and the sisters never registered it, it is legally still in your name... which means you are still liable if anything bad happens with that TT. Better notify your states bureau of motor vehicles that your former TT is no longer yours! Quickly!
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09-12-2017, 10:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Tennessee
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In California you turn in a Release of Liability form to DMV as soon as the sale is done so that from that point on it is not your problem.
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09-13-2017, 01:10 AM
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RetiredRVer
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beauty and Beast
In California you turn in a Release of Liability form to DMV as soon as the sale is done so that from that point on it is not your problem.
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Have to hear from the OP, as he lives in Nebraska. May still have liability issues. I'd be running to the BMV to make sure I wasn't still listed as the owner.
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09-13-2017, 06:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Maurice, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82
I never leave plates on a vehicle, took those off the day I put it up for sale. Made them sign two Bills of Sale...one for them, one for me. I'll send one to the DMV if they want it.
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In my state and others I have lived in it is the SELLERS responsibility to turn in the old plates and notify DMV of the sale, or YOU are the liable one if the trailer causes damage to someone else.
Don't dilly dally any longer, take copies of the BoS and the plates to DMV and be DONE with it!
I know it is sad, but it is no longer yours, get over it
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09-13-2017, 07:14 AM
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Join Date: May 2017
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as I posted before, you don't have to do any of the turn-in, notify, notarize, sanitize, homogenize...anything. It's up to the new owners to register a vehicle within 30 days...by NE. law. I've already contacted the DMV with all the information of the old trailer...plus I added...Name, Address, phone number, and a copy of the B.O.S. showing the new owners name, to the head of the DMV.
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09-13-2017, 07:17 AM
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Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 5,712
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbrown
Twisted sisters! Not funny and just goes to show you how fast people can ruin something! Sad!
I had my own surprise today. Found out that some repair shop and I don't know which one swapped out my 4 rear 2013 Michelin LTX tires for 2003 tires (according to the tire code) of the same type. So not only do I have to spend hundreds on new tires but the swapper put my families life in danger with 14 year old tires
Never really noticed until closer inspection revealed all the sidewall cracks and obviously would have been a very dangerous situation if driving thousands of miles on a trip.
Two sad stories!
Bob Brown
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That BITES ! Big Time !!
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09-13-2017, 07:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Middle GA
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Word to the wise...ALWAYS make a bill of sale. We've sold vehicles before, where the new owners didn't register the vehicle. Unless you have a signed or notarized copy of the bill of sale or a notarized copy of the transfer portion of the title/registration, you have no proof it isn't still yours. There are unscrupulous people out there, so you need to protect yourself.
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Home Away From Home - 2017 PT Crusader 315RST
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09-13-2017, 07:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
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In PA you go to a notary and transfer the title and turn in the plate, you can keep and transfer the plate if you are planning on using it, but ownership is determined by the title. Folks around here won't give you money unless you are at the notary. And the notary is hooked right into the states computers so it all goes down right away.
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09-13-2017, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 913
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben31
Word to the wise...ALWAYS make a bill of sale. We've sold vehicles before, where the new owners didn't register the vehicle. Unless you have a signed or notarized copy of the bill of sale or a notarized copy of the transfer portion of the title/registration, you have no proof it isn't still yours. There are unscrupulous people out there, so you need to protect yourself.
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I know the good people of this forum wouldn't be the type to pull this move, however, to play Devils Advocate for a second, you are looking at this in terms of liability to the seller. I would bring up the other side of that coin and if there is no "record" of the sale, what prevents me from selling my trailer to someone, and then reporting it stolen? Then I get the money for the sale, and I get the trailer to sell again. You'd likely be found out if there was a check of some sort to create a paper trail of the transaction, but many times these sales are cash. Unscrupulous people everywhere, on both sides. Just saying... Its in the best interest of the buyer AND the seller to make sure the documentation is in order. But to the OPs original message, and follow ons, it appears that he has taken the proper steps and gotten assurances from the DMV or MVA (or whatever Nebraska calls it) that he is clear on liability, just heartbroken to see all his efforts caring for his property destroyed "over night". But you made an excellent point about always getting a bill of sale.
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09-13-2017, 08:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Benbrook, Tx
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I get this all the time at the PD I work at. People always complaining about the person they sold the vehicle to will not register it. I ask them if they took the plates and made a bill of sale.
80% of the time they say no.
There is nothing we can do about this issue. They'll then ask me if they can go take the car back. I inform them they just specifically told me they sold the vehicle and it's no longer theirs so No, you can't take it back.
I always inform them to take the plates off when they sell it but of course that's closing the barn door after the horse gets out.
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09-13-2017, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
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Here's the follow up with the DMV. Contacted an hour ago and the camper was registered to the new owners in the bordering county. The Head of the Treasurers dept...chalked it up to...as he put it..."30 year old government software doesn't talk to other county software, so their system just spits out the renewal notice when the time comes." He thank me for providing the information on the trailer so it could be removed from their data base.
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09-15-2017, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 113
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Texas . . .
Texas had a 30 day period or the buyer is fined. I always make a bill of sale for the buyer and myself, and Texas has a form that we both have to fill out and sign. I always take the buyer to the local DMV and paperwork is done there. That way, nothing comes back on me.
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09-15-2017, 12:18 PM
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#35
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 14
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Hopefully you had them sign and fill in the title. Unsigned Open title makes you responsible.
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09-15-2017, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10,833
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Easier to trade to the Dealer and that is it! I towed my Rockwood to the dealer on March 5th. The new owner bought the trailer after talking to me, hitched it up. Drove to Florida for a couple months. I paid 38,000 for it and received 32,000 for it and because it was through the dealer saved the 15% tax on 32,000 on the trade in against the new fifth wheel. Sign Registration, done and done.
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09-15-2017, 12:35 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Near Dallas
Posts: 293
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In Texas the seller can file a form with the DMV indicating that they no longer own the vehicle or trailer. Perhaps other states have similar processes in place that may not be as well advertised.
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