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Old 02-08-2020, 01:20 PM   #1
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more than 2 dogs in NY State Parks

Anyone ever take 3 dogs into NY State campgrounds? We are visiting Niagara Falls and I found 4 Mile State Park to stay in, but they say 2 dog limit on their website. Do they strickly enforce this rule? or will they let us have 3 dogs there. Our dogs are friendly and rarely bark. They are 25, 25 and 60 lbs.
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Excuse the sarcasm, but if your dogs are friendly and rarely bark, then surely the rule would not apply to you, maybe just to everyone else.
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Excuse the sarcasm, but if your dogs are friendly and rarely bark, then surely the rule would not apply to you, maybe just to everyone else.
Actually, I have no dogs but that would work for me.

If I don't hear, or am not annoyed by dogs, why would I care how many are in the site next to me. I like well behaved dogs and the more the merrier. They usually get plenty of pets from me if it's OK with their owners.

In some instances I wish there was a rule on how many loud kids one could have in their campsite, especially those who only know how to communicate by screaming.
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I travel everywhere with 4 dogs and a cat. I have camped at other NYS parks, but not at 4 Mile Creek. My dogs arenít a nuisance and Iíve never had anyone say anything (except how cute and good they are!)
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only let two out at a time and rotate.
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I love animals and pets....at your home. We wintered in Arizona once and neighbors that were two campers over from us had a barking dog. Every time they both left their camper, the dog would bark nonstop until they returned. I didn't see how it was possible that a dog could bark that long without losing its 'voice'. Fortunately, they only stayed for 1 month. The park managers at the time were not well liked and they left at the end of that season. They wouldn't do anything to address the problem...or many other park issues.
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Anyone ever take 3 dogs into NY State campgrounds? We are visiting Niagara Falls and I found 4 Mile State Park to stay in, but they say 2 dog limit on their website. Do they strickly enforce this rule? or will they let us have 3 dogs there. Our dogs are friendly and rarely bark. They are 25, 25 and 60 lbs.
I'd call and ask (without giving my name). Find out what they'll do if they find someone with 3 dogs. You certainly don't want to be asked to leave in the middle of your trip.
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Anyone ever take 3 dogs into NY State campgrounds? We are visiting Niagara Falls and I found 4 Mile State Park to stay in, but they say 2 dog limit on their website. Do they strickly enforce this rule? or will they let us have 3 dogs there. Our dogs are friendly and rarely bark. They are 25, 25 and 60 lbs.
I, like many others here love dogs. With all due respect, if I had to board my dogs somewhere because of campground restrictions, and then showed up only to find another camp guest with multiple dogs despite those restrictions, I wouldn't be happy at all about that.

In the end, you can simply call the campground and tell them about your dogs. Maybe they'll have a spot to put you where your dogs won't be an issue. That said, I wouldn't go anyplace where my dogs weren't welcome.
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I donít live far from this park and know that there have been people there with 3 dogs larger than your group. This was however about 10 years ago or so. I would recommend calling and asking anonymously just to be safe!! Good luck with you WNY visit!!
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We've camped almost exclusively for years in NY State and DEC parks with either both (2) our dogs or neither of them (oldest daughter will house and dog sit). I have on rare occasions seen neighboring campers having more than 2 dogs on site. With park permission or snuck in I can't say and I've never asked as it didn't create an issue for me.
I can say that you have to present current rabies certificates for each pet when you show up.
I have found that park managers seem to have a degree of latitude on how they run and enforce rules at their respective parks.
Best advice was in the post suggesting you call the park prior to booking. You can also google pet boarding services in the area you are camping in.
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Most people just don't want to listen to them. If they behave as you say I doubt there would be an issue. If you rotate 2 outside then no one would be the wiser most likely.

If there is a problem you could always find a nearby boarding place to check them or one into rather than cutting your trip short or the beauty of a trailer is find another campground nearby where it would not be an issue. We do daycare at local places when on day long outings over 4 hrs.and never had an issue with that.

Constant barking is what most CG are trying to avoid. I do report them when off leash (every CG I have been to requires a leash at all times unless in the dog run) and they get aggressive with other dogs or worse people.
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nothing to do with dogs

Wenatchee Willie :

I grew up half way between Niagara Falls and Buffalo in a little city (North Tonawanda - home of the "mighty" Wurlitzer organ and Herschel carousel museum). When I was a kid (I'm 56) the city of Niagara Falls was great, then times changed.

There was a point where anything more than one block away from the Niagara River/Niagara Falls was boarded up druggie houses. So depressing that this once beautiful area was in severe decline.

I was back there about 12 years ago and the city of Niagara Falls was still the armpit of the state, and I'm being nice about the anatomical part.

Hopefully you have a passport. If you go over to Canada (the Lewiston Queenston bridge isn't far) and the view of the Falls from the Canadian side is much nicer, not to mention that the surrounding area and shops is much, much nicer than on the US side (unless things have changed dramatically)

The old fort - Fort Niagara is kind of neat, depending on what your interests are.

Also, there used to be a restaurant - "The Basket Factory" that had incredible food, awesome service, and extremely reasonably priced (not sure if they're still open).

On the Canadian side, in Niagara on the Lake, there is (or used to be) a butterfly museum and several boutique wineries. If you like wine and 4 diamond food, you owe it to yourself to cross the border.

Just so you know, while it's been a decade since I've been back to the Falls area, I go back to North Tonawanda every year - if you want to know something about the local area, feel free to PM me and if I can help I will be more than willing.
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Not saying this is the case here, but a lot of dog owners who claim their dogs don’t bark are simply oblivious to their dogs barking.
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You don't say what breed the dogs are. If you do plan to try it, I'd suggest only walking two at a time and always the big guy with a little guy. Seeing you with two little dogs and then later a big dog will stick out.
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Not saying this is the case here, but a lot of dog owners who claim their dogs donít bark are simply oblivious to their dogs barking.
Yea That's my observation also. My kids are loud. But, I don't think they ever woke anyone up at 3am barking at a leaf when Iet them out to crap in the yard.
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more than 2 dogs in NY State Parks

This subject always turns into a thread for people to complain about that time they were annoyed by a dog while camping. Which, Iím sorry, I roll my eyes at, because in my own experience, dog owners at least try really hard to keep things quiet while all around them, parents just allow ďkids to be kidsĒ, never mind the hour.

If your dogs truly are quiet, having 3 rather than 2 will be irrelevant. Go, have fun, and hopefully the rowdy kids donít get your dogs barking!

(BTW, I donít hate kids, I just tend to live and let live and get mildly annoyed at the disconnect)
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And as PatrickY said, Fort Niagara is a gem (as well as a great park to walk your dogs ). On a nice day, you can see Toronto over the water.
I go over into that area from Canada quite often, for shopping and exploring.
If you ARE a history buff or just enjoy them, Niagara on the Lake, Ontario, has a great ghost walk a few times a year that gives the history of the area from the Canadian AND the American side. I quite enjoyed it!
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This subject always turns into a thread for people to complain about that time they were annoyed by a dog while camping. Which, Iím sorry, I roll my eyes at, because in my own experience, dog owners at least try really hard to keep things quiet while all around them, parents just allow ďkids to be kidsĒ, never mind the hour.

If your dogs truly are quiet, having 3 rather than 2 will be irrelevant. Go, have fun, and hopefully the rowdy kids donít get your dogs barking!

(BTW, I donít hate kids, I just tend to live and let live and get mildly annoyed at the disconnect)
I'll be one of 'em! Last FROG rally, some guy left his dog yapping inside this motorhome for EIGHT HOURS! I seriously wondered how the dog was able to sustain this that long. Eventually the guy must have come back, because the dog finally stopped. I was tempted to walk over to his RV and just stand there screaming like a banshee non-stop, but knew I would never be able to keep it up for the 8 hours necessary for appropriate pay-back.
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......I was tempted to walk over to his RV and just stand there screaming like a banshee non-stop, but knew I would never be able to keep it up for the 8 hours necessary for appropriate pay-back.
I would pay good money to see that!
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They will ask for proof of rabies shots but will not ask to see the dogs, show 2 sets, keep the dogs inside or as stated, only let 2 out at a time.
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