Nasty camping experience

[dedobias]

Originally Posted by LivingToCamp

What's the point of talking to the Ranger after the fact ? The people are probably gone by then so what will the Ranger do ?
If someone is doing something that wrong, talk to someone asap so it can immediately be corrected.

Nope, report it. People like this never learn unless talked to by a ranger.

[JCR]

I seen a guy dump both his tanks in a Casino parking lot.. Then took off leaving the mess. Next time I came back it was closed off to RV parking.

[vap0rtranz]

Originally Posted by JCR

I seen a guy dump both his tanks in a Casino parking lot.. Then took off leaving the mess. Next time I came back it was closed off to RV parking.

Eww, disgusting. I've never seen this.


It's ridiculous because dumps are everywhere. A city 40mins from me has a public dump that costs a whopping $0 to use. An RV dealer 15mins from me charges a puny $10.


People like this should have their camping privileges revoked.


The COVID-era problem I'm seeing is public campgrounds aren't doing same-day / no registration, which could prevent some abuses like this, but now front desks are no longer checking in campers. So now campground hosts / rangers never meet their guests, much less check their campground privileges. The whole no-touchems / no-seeums thing from COVID now means these disgusting campers are never seen by their hosts.



If these kind of people go to court over a citation or privileges revoked, and the judge asks the ranger or host "When did you see Mr. Poop who had reserved site# 39?" The ranger will have to say, "Well I never saw Mr. Poop." Case dismissed.


We need to get back to campers registering with their hosts onsite at check-in.

[Homebrew]

Originally Posted by ValMelton

PLEASE report it NOW. how would you want to be the next campers to pull into that unsanitary space without it being santized, without knowing the issue and ahve children or pets play in that area?. I would NOT. there are rangers or camp host available that can deal with the issue and at elast get it santized before the next campers pull into it

they will not sanitize before the next camper pulls in. They will only have a nice conversation with the person and tell them politely to not dump there waste. They also will make a point to say your neighbor reported you dumping.

[suzieshome]

Originally Posted by lazyjj

I have been a host in a state park this summer after retiring this past June. This is my favorite park so I will not give out a name or location. However, since you brought this subject up, I have found in my daily work that about 4-5% of the campers are complete nasty buffoons. I am 62 years old and I have never in my life seen such irresponsible and disrespectful folks. I could go into where they are from and a lot of different categories but I don't want to stereotype, however, 95% or so are still the campers we have all grown up to love. Hopefully the 5% will decide they don't fit and go away.

Really? You don’t want to stereotype?

[Aussieguy]

there was a report of a band bus driver that dumped whole tank off a bridge.. about 80gallons

Too bad tourist boat was going under bridge at same time


I believe the driver's fine was sky-high too!

[TwiceTheIce]

I do not understand the outrage. This is only one person, yet on the same day I would venture to say that a hundred people let their dogs and cats pee on the ground, as well as the racoons, squirrels, and snakes.

[Aussieguy]

dogs and cats pee on the ground, as well as the racoons, squirrels, and snakes.



but if I trained them all to do it in the same spot, near your open window... you'd understand pretty fast


especially old cat peee... so gross

[Homebrew]

Originally Posted by TwiceTheIce

I do not understand the outrage. This is only one person, yet on the same day I would venture to say that a hundred people let their dogs and cats pee on the ground, as well as the racoons, squirrels, and snakes.

Your correct but this is a few gallons at a time not a few ounces.
It’s hard to keep your windows open or having a meal outside on a nice day with the strong urine smell.
But everyone is different, some may enjoy people dumping gallons of urine 20 feet from there camper.

[JCR]

Originally Posted by vap0rtranz

Eww, disgusting. I've never seen this.


It's ridiculous because dumps are everywhere. A city 40mins from me has a public dump that costs a whopping $0 to use. An RV dealer 15mins from me charges a puny $10.


People like this should have their camping privileges revoked.


The COVID-era problem I'm seeing is public campgrounds aren't doing same-day / no registration, which could prevent some abuses like this, but now front desks are no longer checking in campers. So now campground hosts / rangers never meet their guests, much less check their campground privileges. The whole no-touchems / no-seeums thing from COVID now means these disgusting campers are never seen by their hosts.



If these kind of people go to court over a citation or privileges revoked, and the judge asks the ranger or host "When did you see Mr. Poop who had reserved site# 39?" The ranger will have to say, "Well I never saw Mr. Poop." Case dismissed.


We need to get back to campers registering with their hosts onsite at check-in.

Yes, this online reservation is also a problem in that there is no check in . The other big polluting factor are those open frame generators people use and are too cheap to buy a quiet inverter. Campgrounds should outlaw these nuisance noise polluting devices.

[NMWildcat]

Originally Posted by TwiceTheIce

I do not understand the outrage. This is only one person, yet on the same day I would venture to say that a hundred people let their dogs and cats pee on the ground, as well as the racoons, squirrels, and snakes.

Exactly!
But everyone seems to need something to be outraged about.....

[melvinjo]

For the OP. If you didnt at least go and tell the offender its wrong, you are part of the problem. I am sure you dont like seeing that, but if you cant go over and tell the person, well..............

Heck, the person might not even really realize its wrong, beleive it or not (In the military, peeing in PVC tubes stuck in gravel at remotes sites was an approved method)

If you might feel "uncomfortable" after approaching the offender, well, when WILL you stand your ground. Or is it a matter of that you would rather have somone else talk to the person so you can feel unidenitified and "safe"

So if someone would do a related act at your house or yard, do you just pick up the phone and call the Law? Or do you at least attempt to tell them they are wrong

As RVrs, we encounter all sorts of folks, and yes, I agree, some are either clueless, ignorant, are rude, or just dont care

You deserve a better neighbor in this case. Next time try going over, be pleasent and to the point If that makes you uncomfortble, well, yes, you can complain to management, but frankly, many wont do a thing unless they see it themselves, and on BLM land, good luck with finding a Ranger in a timely manner

Look, I walked thru a space (cut a corner) that was occupied to get to the public rest room, and was told by the occupant IMMEDIATLEY that was wrong: I havent done it since

[TwiceTheIce]

Originally Posted by Aussieguy

dogs and cats pee on the ground, as well as the racoons, squirrels, and snakes.



but if I trained them all to do it in the same spot, near your open window... you'd understand pretty fast


especially old cat peee... so gross

Actually, dogs and cats DO prefer to pee in the same spot as other animals. That is why they sniff and select a spot. Each animal is seeking to claim the territory as her own. (Not trying to start a pixxing contest here!)

[NMWildcat]

Originally Posted by melvinjo

For the OP. If you didnt at least go and tell the offender its wrong, you are part of the problem. I am sure you dont like seeing that, but if you cant go over and tell the person, well..............

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Ok, I'm using your logic and saying that your opinion is incorrect. It is not a black and white problem.
Every situation and every person is different, and if you are not there, you don't know.
Could be your method would be perfect and everyone would become life long friends, or it could be you stir up a hornets nest and end up in the hospital.
So if the pee dumper out weighed you by 100lbs, was 40 years younger, covered in jailhouse tattoos, and was in a bad mood, would you be inclined to go over and point out the error of their ways?
I would gauge the situation and decide if I really wanted to confront them, or take another course of action. But I definitely would not call someone out for deciding differently than what I think they should do.

[TwiceTheIce]

Originally Posted by Homebrew

Your correct but this is a few gallons at a time not a few ounces.
It’s hard to keep your windows open or having a meal outside on a nice day with the strong urine smell.
But everyone is different, some may enjoy people dumping gallons of urine 20 feet from there camper.

That better be a huge camper to accommodate enough enough people to produce "a few gallons" of urine. The average adult produces 400-500 ml of urine over a 24 hour period, with the majority of it released during daylight hours. We can assume that they use the restroom during daylight hours, so your neighbor probably dumped what was produced during the night, which for two adults would be only about 100 ml. Of course, the effect could be exacerbated if they had been eating asparagus!

[Homebrew]

Originally Posted by TwiceTheIce

That better be a huge camper to accommodate enough enough people to produce "a few gallons" of urine. The average adult produces 400-500 ml of urine over a 24 hour period, with the majority of it released during daylight hours. We can assume that they use the restroom during daylight hours, so your neighbor probably dumped what was produced during the night, which for two adults would be only about 100 ml. Of course, the effect could be exacerbated if they had been eating asparagus!

Many van campers have composting toilets which have a separate container for urine. I assume this container holds 1-2 gallons and only gets dumped when full.
We noticed this person never left his camp site in the 3 days we were at this campground.

[MR.M]

Originally Posted by TwiceTheIce

That better be a huge camper to accommodate enough enough people to produce "a few gallons" of urine. The average adult produces 400-500 ml of urine over a 24 hour period, with the majority of it released during daylight hours. We can assume that they use the restroom during daylight hours, so your neighbor probably dumped what was produced during the night, which for two adults would be only about 100 ml. Of course, the effect could be exacerbated if they had been eating asparagus!

Now that's funny . Had a bunch of asparagus that was going to go bad so cooked it all up and had a feast with a stake and the Asparagus . the next day never smelt so bad when urinating . That may be a good way to get campers around you to move sites.

[MR.M]

Originally Posted by Homebrew

Many van campers have composting toilets which have a separate container for urine. I assume this container holds 1-2 gallons and only gets dumped when full.
We noticed this person never left his camp site in the 3 days we were at this campground.

Either way you should have brought it up to him then, not come here and whine about it . Lots of campers old and new do things without consideration for others. If you can't speak to them about it or report it coming here does nothing . The story would have been better if you reported and saw him get kicked out of camp ground . then maybe he would have learned something .

[Homebrew]

Originally Posted by MR.M

Either way you should have brought it up to him then, not come here and whine about it . Lots of campers old and new do things without consideration for others. If you can't speak to them about it or report it coming here does nothing . The story would have been better if you reported and saw him get kicked out of camp ground . then maybe he would have learned something .

Wow! I’m not whining, just wondering if people with composting toilets dump there urine tank at there camp site or take the time to walk to the bathroom to dump there tank.

[melvinjo]

Originally Posted by NMWildcat

Ok, I'm using your logic and saying that your opinion is incorrect. It is not a black and white problem.
Every situation and every person is different, and if you are not there, you don't know.
Could be your method would be perfect and everyone would become life long friends, or it could be you stir up a hornets nest and end up in the hospital.
So if the pee dumper out weighed you by 100lbs, was 40 years younger, covered in jailhouse tattoos, and was in a bad mood, would you be inclined to go over and point out the error of their ways?
I would gauge the situation and decide if I really wanted to confront them, or take another course of action. But I definitely would not call someone out for deciding differently than what I think they should do.

RVng can be potentially dangerous Its a situation where you meet all sorts of folks, you basically live with them in the wee hours, and yes, things can go sour when approaching the wrong person, and all situations can be different Thank you for stating the obvious

I DONT live my life in fear of others. If I paid to be somewhere, and someone is just plain wrong, I talk to the person: And yes, you wont always get a positive reaction And if you cant stand your ground for whatever reason, then thats the persons choice and situation, and then you just have to live with the situation

And please dont "call me out" for giving my opinion Its a forum, the I net, and someone else posted the subject: Expect dif opinions

I dont hesitate when folks need help (And I have seen folks being attacked and intervened), I stop to help those broke down on the road (even though thats dangerous in itself) I am 62, and if the other person is 250, and covered with tattoos, it doesnt intimidate me

When I crossed over that occupants turf, it was man about 75 year old, about 5'9", and he was pleasant but firm and he had my apologies

Sorry, but I grew up old school. Stand my ground, tell others how I really feel: But frankly, nowadays if you are upfront, and even while being polite, it tends to transfer to, "Thats guys a b---hole"