Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-08-2020, 11:54 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 725
No trucks over XX tons, do you pay attention?

Something to keep us busy while sitting around. Do you ever listen to the "no truck" signs posted around?

I live in a rural area (for NJ) that has a lot of narrow roads, no shoulders, poorly maintained,..... For 15+ years I've been driving down the same county road to work. There is one section that has a short steep hill, nothing crazy. A while ago signs popped up: "No trucks over 4 tons, 13% grade". The hill is short (~0.2 miles) and of course ends at a T intersection.

I have a 2500 with a GVW of 9500 pounds so I would be technically not allowed on this road. However I'm registered at 7600 pounds so I should be OK. ;-)

Over the 20 years I've lived here I've seen plenty of UPS trucks, 2500, 3500, garbage trucks, school buses, landscapers, ....... countless vehicles over 4 tons. The sign has been up for a year or so now. I keep using the road. I still see all of the above.

There is another county road leading to the local regional airport. Several miles of this road are also freshly marked "no trucks over 4 tons". In this case there some older worn out signs. The road goes past several working farms and horse farms. I'm sure the guy in the diesel dually pulling the 4 horse goose-neck is just a smidge over 4 tons.

My guess is someone in the county got a new toy and is having fun printing out signs. Several small towns here do not have police departments, and I'm sure the state police could really care less.

So with no enforcement whats the point? The only signs like this I pay attention to are on a few of the smaller bridges crossing the Delaware river. They are listed at 3 ton max. And since my truck would be a tight fit as is I'll avoid those. And if it says "No trailers" i think they really mean it.

Jim M.
__________________
2020 Flagstaff Super Lite 26RBWS
Former: 2017 Rockwood MiniLite 2104S
2015 Silverado 2500HD 6.0L Gas
jimmarako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 11:57 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
nomad297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 7,053
Your 2500 is not a truck. It is a passenger vehicle. You are fine.

Bruce
__________________
2016 Rockwood Windjammer 3029W Diamond Edition
2015 Chevy 3500HD LTZ 6.0 Crew Cab 4x4 Long Bed 4.10:1 SRW
nomad297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 11:59 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
nomad297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 7,053
If the signs said no vehicles over X tons, that would be another thing.

Bruce
__________________
2016 Rockwood Windjammer 3029W Diamond Edition
2015 Chevy 3500HD LTZ 6.0 Crew Cab 4x4 Long Bed 4.10:1 SRW
nomad297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:05 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 725
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomad297 View Post
Your 2500 is not a truck. It is a passenger vehicle. You are fine.

Bruce
Splitting hairs I think. In NJ my truck can be registered normal (which it is) or commercial which I think would then make it a "truck". In NY state its a truck. Not sure about PA.

If this were the case, what would be a truck that light? UPS/FedEx guys have to be more like 6+ tons. Delivery vans would then be cars,...

Jim M.
__________________
2020 Flagstaff Super Lite 26RBWS
Former: 2017 Rockwood MiniLite 2104S
2015 Silverado 2500HD 6.0L Gas
jimmarako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:10 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
nomad297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 7,053
The use of the word “truck” without stating what kind of truck on a road sign is very ambiguous and I’m sure, not too enforceable. Signs stating just GVW or GVWR are much more enforceable.

Bruce
__________________
2016 Rockwood Windjammer 3029W Diamond Edition
2015 Chevy 3500HD LTZ 6.0 Crew Cab 4x4 Long Bed 4.10:1 SRW
nomad297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:11 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
Posts: 15,834
When I am towing my TT my Gross Combined Weight is about 10 pounds under 6 tons (12,000 lbs). I pay CLOSE attention when I see a sign on a bridge saying "no vehicles/combinations over 12,000 lbs.

Ran into one last year about 100 yards from a NF campground entrance due to bridge repairs. Last thing I want is to have to figure out how to get all or part of my rig out of the creek.
__________________
"A wise man can change his mind. A fool never will." (Japanese Proverb)

"You only grow old when you run out of new things to do"

2018 Flagstaff Micro Lite 25BDS
2004 Nissan Titan
TitanMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:21 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 9
I ran across one on the road to an RV park in DE. Turns out it was put there when a bridge was repaired and never removed. The community liked it as it kept some trucks from using the road.
Serenity-RV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:23 PM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 15
I suspect the sign refers to actual weight not potential weight. It doesn’t say “no trucks rated for over 4 tons does it?
Clyde M is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:37 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
nomad297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 7,053
I have noticed over the last year in a lot of places in Maryland, particularly on Route 95 that they have changed their signs for (mostly) various lane restrictions and some other purposes from “All Vehicles Over 5 Tons GVW” to “All Vehicles Over 5 Tons GVW/GVWR”. Most of the signs just have just been pasted-over with a sticker to add the “GVWR”, but some are brand new. So, anybody driving a DRW pickup can be easily spotted and pulled over because they all exceed this GVWR. My 3500 SRW is rated at 11,400 GVWR, so I can probably risk driving in the restricted lanes without a hassle.

Bruce
__________________
2016 Rockwood Windjammer 3029W Diamond Edition
2015 Chevy 3500HD LTZ 6.0 Crew Cab 4x4 Long Bed 4.10:1 SRW
nomad297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:44 PM   #10
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 3
First, the sign does, indeed, refer to Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW), not Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR). If your actual Gross Weight equaled or exceeded the posted limit you would be in violation; regardless of whether someone told you your 2500 was a passenger vehicle, not a truck.

The question isn't limited to enforcement. If a vehicle exceeding the posted weight limit is involved in a collision, regardless of fault, the overweight vehicle could be held liable; civilly and otherwise. Current thinking, and precedent exists, is the non-compliant vehicle should not have occupied the space, at that time, and if the vehicle had complied, no collision could have occurred.
CampCoffee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 12:45 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 725
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clyde M View Post
I suspect the sign refers to actual weight not potential weight. It doesnít say ďno trucks rated for over 4 tons does it?
My understanding was that they care about the GVWR of the truck. I did incorrectly state GVW in an earlier post. I doubt many cop carrie portable scales with them so how would a they know if you loaded to 3.9 tons or 4.1?
__________________
2020 Flagstaff Super Lite 26RBWS
Former: 2017 Rockwood MiniLite 2104S
2015 Silverado 2500HD 6.0L Gas
jimmarako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 01:01 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
djemgoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Brookfield, WI
Posts: 212
No trucks over XX tons, do you pay attention?

Every spring in Wisconsin they put up weight limit signs on some of the roads, to prevent big trucks from breaking up the roads from the frost heaving.
That could be why your seeing the signs recently.
__________________
Dave & Elaine
Brookfield, WI
2021 Rockwood, 2509s, pulled by a 2020 Ford F150 XLT, Super Cab, 3.5L Eco Boost, with 3.55 axle. Electric 10-speed auto trans w/tow mod. Heavy Duty Tow package & integrated trailer brake, 11,700 lb. tow capacity, payload is 1916 lbs. and 145Ē wheel base. Equalizer 4 point W/D hitch.
djemgoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 01:08 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 116
Exclamation

My guess is that it probably would depend on your attitude; dismissive, combative, etc. The portable scales are always just a call away.
DRiveWell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 01:18 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Telstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: La Mirada, CA
Posts: 528
Same thing in California, some cities have signs “No trucks over xx pounds”. According to the California Highway Patrol, any sign with the word “Truck” pertains to commercial vehicles only. RV’s are considered non-commercial even though California requires commercial plates on all pickups.
Same goes for weigh stations, RV’s should not go through them.
__________________
Gary and Donna
2005 Cardinal 33TS-LX
Trail Air pin box
Center Point suspension
2018 Ram Laramie 3500 6'4" box 2WD
Demco AutoSlide 18k
Telstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 02:03 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
Posts: 15,834
Now that I think about it, I live in a neighborhood that has a "No Trucks" sign on all approaches. I still see all kinds of trucks from UPS/Fedex, Appliance/Furniture delivery trucks, and even huge semi's hauling furniture.

From what I gather it's all about making sure the residential streets, which are not built to the same standards as "arterials" don't end up looking like a county back road in E. Kentucky/W. Va. with pavement broken up and held together with poured strips of tar.
__________________
"A wise man can change his mind. A fool never will." (Japanese Proverb)

"You only grow old when you run out of new things to do"

2018 Flagstaff Micro Lite 25BDS
2004 Nissan Titan
TitanMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 02:04 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 140
I believe sign excludes local vehicles, like school buses and ups trucks and such. Sign is for trucks that do not run local. Like a big truck using back roads to get to such and such destinations
dodgemark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 02:06 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
oldsmasma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Athens
Posts: 685
Yes. But I’m the sort of person who follows rules.
__________________

Phil, Heather & Olaf the Boxer
Ontario Canada
Lexington 283GTS
oldsmasma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 02:44 PM   #18
Member
 
Mikolow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Home
Posts: 65
No trucks over XX tons

I usually don't pay much attention unless it is a bridge. Then I lower the windows to listen for creaking timbers.
__________________
2017 Compass 320RSC
2019 F-350 Lariat 6.7
and the Old Puppy
Mikolow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 03:36 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cedar Creek Lake, TX
Posts: 3,395
I'm of the opinion that a sign stating "no trucks over 4 tons" is referring to the carrying capacity of the truck. A 2500 is considered a 3/4 ton (although rated a bit higher.) I'm hoping that one of our LEOs on the forum can clarify this for us.
I do pay close attention to signs stating "no trucks over XX weight" as I still drive fire trucks and this can be a huge concern for us.
__________________
Cedar Creek Lake, Texas
2019 Keystone Loredo 290SRL
2019 Ram 2500 4x4 Cummins crew cab
Andersen hitch
CedarCreekWoody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2020, 04:05 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Southern Delaware
Posts: 201
Possibly a revenue generating ploy. Depending on the officer, or ones attitude. Mostly restricting commercial vehicles.
EdnKat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
truck

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Forest River, Inc. or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:43 AM.