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Old 10-25-2020, 01:11 PM   #21
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OK folks, I just went up to a F250 with a 6'7" bed, my last truck had a 6' 5" bed. My question is this: Will I have to back up to the king pin with the tailgate down and as I clear the King pin will I have to close the tail gate in order to hitch up? Or will their be enough clearance to leave the tailgate down to hitch up.
I know if it was a long bed I would have to go thru that procedure or change out the tailgate..
One would think after all these years I would know the answer to this question.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:33 PM   #22
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OK folks, I just went up to a F250 with a 6'7" bed, my last truck had a 6' 5" bed. My question is this: Will I have to back up to the king pin with the tailgate down and as I clear the King pin will I have to close the tail gate in order to hitch up? Or will their be enough clearance to leave the tailgate down to hitch up.
I know if it was a long bed I would have to go thru that procedure or change out the tailgate..
One would think after all these years I would know the answer to this question.
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depends on your king pin and placement of the hitch in the new truck really. most fifth wheel hitches have some form of forward/backward adjustment. so i dont think there is an easy answer.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:44 PM   #23
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I will be going up to the Ozarks just after Thanksgiving and I will have the hitch installed while I am up there for a couple of weeks. The technician that I used there told me that is must be installed over the center of the rear axial.
Only time will tell though.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:51 PM   #24
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I'm using a '19 F150 with 1900 lbs of payload and it works very well pulling my 7700 GVWR trailer 28' long with 950lbs of tongue weight.

Should I have bought a 250? no way what would I gain? NOTHING!!! This truck pulls the trailer just fine and is a great daily driver also.

I suppose I should have bought a bigger truck "just in case" but then I should have bought a bigger house "just in case" or bought more life insurance "just in case" The "just in case" list can be endless.

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Old 10-25-2020, 01:53 PM   #25
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[QUOTE=amdisc;2439509]Will I have to back up to the king pin with the tailgate down and as I clear the King pin will I have to close the tail gate in order to hitch up? /QUOTE]
Yes and Yes. You could always get a V notch tail gate. But in my last 5ver I just lowered the tailgate.
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Old 10-25-2020, 01:56 PM   #26
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I was afraid of that, cause that can be a real pain..I don't want to change out the tail gate, cause I like to keep the bed covered when I am not towing the 5th. wheel.

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Old 10-25-2020, 02:13 PM   #27
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I donít imagine you will see any fuel savings towing on the f150. That little motor and turbos will be screaming to make the same HP as the V8 in my opinion.
Obviously you've never owned an Ecoboost.
I live out West and frequently tow over the Sierras, Cascades and Siskiyous and there's NEVER been any "screaming" from my Ecoboost when towing my TT.
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Obviously you've never owned an Ecoboost.
I live out West and frequently tow over the Sierras, Cascades and Siskiyous and there's NEVER been any "screaming" from my Ecoboost when towing my TT.
Nope never - only towed with a diesel (Cummins and GM). But I would imagine you are over 1800 rpm towing. I think itís working the turbos kinda hard is all.

To each their own, but Iíve ďunder truckedĒ my self in the past. The suspension upgrade alone would make me stay in a 3/4 ton - especially when looking to buy a new truck.
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Old 10-25-2020, 04:56 PM   #29
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Nope never - only towed with a diesel (Cummins and GM). But I would imagine you are over 1800 rpm towing. I think itís working the turbos kinda hard is all. .
You'd be incorrect.
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Old 10-25-2020, 06:10 PM   #30
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☝️ X2. Incorrect for sure. I donít know why you just donít recommend he just go get a F450.
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Old 10-25-2020, 06:27 PM   #31
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☝️ X2. Incorrect for sure. I donít know why you just donít recommend he just go get a F450.
Lol. I would. But I have a dually so
Iím partial to a big truck.
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Old 10-29-2020, 03:28 PM   #32
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Here's another country heard from!!!
You are going to find pros and cons with them both. Its up to you what you are doing with them.
The difference between the 150 and the 250, I'm assuming gas, my 150, tuned, with a high flow air cleaner, got around 15 MPG if I didn't stomp on it. I got around 9-10MPG towing my Hybrid. My 250 got around 12-15 MPG on the highway and got around 10-12MPG towing.
The ride may be better in the 150 however, the 250 rides better with a little load on the back.
I would bite the bullet and get the 250. It has more possibilities of use than the 150. Good Luck and safe camping!!!!
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Old 10-29-2020, 04:00 PM   #33
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I love my F250 Super Duty with the exception of the 5.4L dog of an engine. Bought the truck used and that is the engine it had. Everything else about the truck is Awesome. Towing our wolf pup feels safe with the Equalizer 4 point WDH. I like the bigger brakes and heavier suspension the truck has. This is also my daily driver though and for daily chores and going back and forth to work it rides a bit rough. Nice days in the spring through fall I ride my Harley... problem solved. Lol
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:35 PM   #34
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With your estimated payload you are asking a lot of an F150. 700lbs is a split between trailer and gear. My tongue weight was as high as 1100lbs. I pack heavy and never realy got to 1000lbs of gear in the trailer. Tools will overload your truck though.

Had an F150 and a 7200lb fully loaded trailer (never loaded over 7k). It worked for a while but was a squirrely tow mainly because my trailers tongue weight was so high. 1680 lb payload. Once that was under control it was better but still not great. Expect a payload of 1500ish lbs without an HDPP package and a supercrew cab. With HDPP is much better but I never see them on lots to know average.

An F250 gasser will have enough payload but a diesel will put you back under 2k payload on a 250.

No issues with pulling but my rear axle was over so I had to move around a lot of gear to make my weights. I upgraded to an F350 because it got a diesel. Its sized for my next trailer and way too big for the current but now I dont care where I load anything. It is my daily driver and I love it.

Just know if the F150 is not enough it will be super expensive to fix it later either new truck or new trailer and you take a bath on either change. Learn from my mistake. Happy camping.
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:42 PM   #35
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If youíre getting the HD payload you should get 3:73 rear axle which will have a GVWR of 4800 lbs, thatís what mine came with in 2017. The payload should be north of 2300 lbs, mine is 2440 and Iíve seen up to 2800 lbs. of course if you plan on going a lot bigger in the future you may want more. I tow 8500 to 9500 lbs with a pin weight up to 1400 lbs and at worst I still have 500 lbs to spare. Itís a fifth wheel though. Iíve seen a lot of XLTs without the HD package with payloads up to 2000 lbs, but the more options you get, the less payload. Just check out the CCC stickers at the dealers.
Edit: not 4800 GVWR, I meant RAWR of 4800 lbs.
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:33 PM   #36
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Go for the F-250/F350. Well worth the money! You get a much safer tow rig. Get the 3.73 or 4.10 axle ratio. You'll have much bigger capacity braking, bigger cooling system, heavier suspension, better grade performance. Resale value will always return what you pay extra for the F-250/F-350 combo. GM & Dodge also build excellent tow rigs of 2500/3500 models. Be sure to get the towing package enhancements. You will be happier and safer on the road. Safe & Happy travels.



I have been driving Pick Ups since 1976 I always buy the 3/4 ton for a few bucks more you get larger brakes,springs higher weight cap tires and wheels and these newer trucks ride Great
I often see 1/2 tons over loaded and shake my head!,,,.
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:40 PM   #37
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1400 for passengers and cargo?

You are in 3/4 ton for sure.

There are 1/2 tons with less than that, and you havent added the trailer yet.


Lots of posts here forget hitch weight. Yea tounge weight is one aspect.
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:56 PM   #38
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no brainer f150 all the way get a equalizer 4pt hitch and get out there and enjoy
Worst possible advice..."Go big or Go home"!
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I have been driving Pick Ups since 1976 I always buy the 3/4 ton for a few bucks more you get larger brakes,springs higher weight cap tires and wheels and these newer trucks ride Great
I often see 1/2 tons over loaded and shake my head!,,,.
You are 150% correct!
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Obviously you've never owned an Ecoboost.
I live out West and frequently tow over the Sierras, Cascades and Siskiyous and there's NEVER been any "screaming" from my Ecoboost when towing my TT.
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