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Old 03-09-2011, 01:31 PM   #1
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Outside Kitchens

Just wondering if anyone with the outside kitchens have had any issues with dampness in the laminate countertop?
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:53 PM   #2
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We just looked at some trailers at our local rv show last weekend with outdoor kitchens and i gotta' say i'm not impressed. Without really knowing how they fabricate the laminate tops [the sales rep didn't know either] i can only assume they follow industry standards,3/4" indust. grade particle board with plastic laminate adheared with spray-on contact cement wich in my opinion as a master carpenter/cabinet maker would totally unsuited for out-door use. In addition i was surprised how some manufacturers set the hight of the flip-up door at 6'! I can only assume that this feature will go the way of the dodo bird and one has to wonder how much energy went into such a dumb idea.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:23 PM   #3
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MPI Mallard, I'm sorry you feel that way. I happen to enjoy the concept. When we are camping most of our time is spent outdoors whether the weather cooperates or not. The added convenience and ease of acces to our beverages is what drew us to purcashe our unit.
While you have trade experience you are basing you assumptions on little knowledge of the actual product. This can be a very slippery slope. I would think that these counter tops would be made in a similar fashion to the counters inside the units. these weather the seasons quite well and are used in similar environmental conditions as the units are not conditioned year round.
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Well, what have we here. Neither one knows how the counter tops are constructed, but we are going to argue over it. Oh well, at least a tape measure will verify the door height, and while it may not bother someone that is 5'6", I can see where a 6'4" person wouldn't like it, no more than they would some of the units with the shorter than standard bed.
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Old 03-11-2011, 06:47 AM   #5
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I can only assume that this feature will go the way of the dodo bird and one has to wonder how much energy went into such a dumb idea.
Really? This happens to be one of the hottest features going the last couple of years. If you are a true camper and enjoy the outdoors why would you not just love the fact that you can do all of your cooking, drinking and dish washing outside.
Other positive aspects are that it does not heat up the inside of the rig, and no grease splatter to deal with inside when cooking items like bacon, sausage, or other things that tend to go pop and make a mess over time.
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Sounds like it's time for a poll!

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If you are a true camper and enjoy the outdoors why would you not just love the fact that you can do all of your cooking, drinking and dish washing outside.
I think your reasoning is why most of us have left tent and pop-up camping behind.

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Well said Dave
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So you guys don't like being outside?
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Has anyone experienced delam with there counter tops inside of there campers? Campers are not made to be tight to where one has full control over the temperatures and humidity, they leak. They are not built like a house and if they were the price would be too high.

The out door kitchens are a new concept to RVing, and people seem to like it because it is different, however it is just another kitchen to clean, but it is cool looking. I do not have one, but just trying to think ahead based on Pro's and Con's. The construction and the material used and how heat and humidity plays apart on how long it will last on the out side. There are people that like to get the newest things and that is fine, they are the testing group and this is when we will see what fails and what doesn't, then hopefully changes will be made to make it better.

It's in your best intrest to check out all of the info on the product before defending or condemning, knowing the facts will help you others here.
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I think your reasoning is why most of us have left tent and pop-up camping behind.

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Our reasoining for moving from a tent to a trailer was set up time. where we were spending 4 plus hours on set up and another 4 on tear down we can now back in roll out the carpet and pour a cocktail. If I wanted to spend all my time inside my camper I'd save the fuel and never leave my yard.
we purchased a model with the outside kitchen for the easy acess to beverages and cooking the veggies or an egg or two. most of our cooking is done over the fire as I feel it should be when you're camping.
As for the durability of the counter tops I feel that basically the interior counters see as much or more moisture (condensation) than the exterior one will. If the manufacturers use the same materials on both all should be good. If they didn't and problems would arise either warranty or a class action suit should resolve the issue.
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most of our cooking is done over the fire as I feel it should be when you're camping.
You'll have it tough selling us that you're a 'camping purist' in your trailer with two, complete kitchens...microwave and all!

In MHO, it eventually comes down to space...does the 2nd outdoor kitchen justify the space it takes up. Given the choice, I'd pick the extra storage space over the second kitchen...can never have too much storage space. I'll still enjoy cooking outside on the BBQ, thank you.

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You'll have a tough selling us that you're a 'camping purist' in your trailer with two, complete kitchens...microwave and all!

In MHO, it eventually comes down to space...does the 2nd outdoor kitchen justify the space it takes up. Given the choice, I'd pick the extra storage space over the second kitchen...can never have too much storage space. I'll still enjoy cooking outside on the BBQ, thank you.

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As i stated earlier in this thread, i need to like them since i have one coming. But really i could take it or leave, the real facts on why we have it is the other half (that would be my smarter half), and when she speaks up we listen. Her wisdom was with the second bath and it's own outside door, outside kitchen (for snacks, and snack storage) and an outside frig, the kids would never need to go into the camper except to sleep and hence not track the floor up with dirt she has to clean. Who was I to argue .
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As i stated earlier in this thread, i need to like them since i have one coming. But really i could take it or leave, the real facts on why we have it is the other half (that would be my smarter half), and when she speaks up we listen. Her wisdom was with the second bath and it's own outside door, outside kitchen (for snacks, and snack storage) and an outside frig, the kids would never need to go into the camper except to sleep and hence not track the floor up with dirt she has to clean. Who was I to argue .
Sounds like a smart woman
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We have had an "outside kitchen" for years !! - long before they became the latest rage with RV's. Ours consists of a 5' folding aluminum table, a coleman 3-burner propane stove, a Weber baby-Q, coleman 5-day Xtreme cooler, and a 20lb propane tank with coleman multi-connect "tree". Setting it up after getting parked is my job, and I love it !! Don't need or want one of the new fangled ones. LOL

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As i stated earlier in this thread, i need to like them since i have one coming. But really i could take it or leave, the real facts on why we have it is the other half (that would be my smarter half), and when she speaks up we listen. Her wisdom was with the second bath and it's own outside door, outside kitchen (for snacks, and snack storage) and an outside frig, the kids would never need to go into the camper except to sleep and hence not track the floor up with dirt she has to clean. Who was I to argue .

Good point, there are two things in life one has to concider when you are married,....."You Can Be Right, or You Can Be Happy".....Which one would you concider?
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I guess this is why they make more than one floor plan in RV's... I hate having the smell of popcorn linger in the trailer so the our outdoor kitchen is a must have. Plus when we have folks over to our trailer, we can all sit around and have quick access to a fridge, pot of chili, and a place to wash your hands, and the trailer stays clean.
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I'm not a "fan" of the outside kitchen as much as I am a fan of the outside-accessible fridge. We carry a small "Dorm" fridge with us each camping trip for the "Adult Beverages". It lives under a table that has to be set up outside the camper each trip, and we "hide" it behind a curtain. An access door in the side of the TT with the fridge behind it is my idea of "Perfect". No Muss, No Fuss.
As for cooking, we do most on the RVQ or the campfire, and my DW is a master in the kitchen.

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