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07-07-2022, 04:03 PM
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Socket replacement
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Originally Posted by 5picker
What was the remedy?
Did you have campground maintenance replace the outlet or possibly use the 50a outlet? (if equipped)
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Yes, I contacted the office and maintenance appeared quickly.
He replaced the breaker as well as the socket.
Problem solved and electrical crisis averted.
That was our first encounter with a damaged socket and probably won't be the last. Just be careful and do a quick visual of the socket and breakers. Check the power at the pedestal your surge suppressor or a simple circuit tester.
The socket pictured was at another campground several years later.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/1-Electri...4?athbdg=L1600
Of course the plug photo turned out sideways...
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07-07-2022, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vasnipe
Yes, I contacted the office and maintenance appeared quickly.
He replaced the breaker as well as the socket.
Problem solved and electrical crisis averted.
That was our first encounter with a damaged socket and probably won't be the last. Just be careful and do a quick visual of the socket and breakers. Check the power at the pedestal your surge suppressor or a simple circuit tester.
The socket pictured was at another campground several years later.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/1-Electri...4?athbdg=L1600
Of course the plug photo turned out sideways...
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Instead of testing the 20/15 amp outlet, you should be testing the actual RV receptacle:
https://www.amazon.com/funomo-Analyz...dp/B099YM8G17/
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07-07-2022, 06:10 PM
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I use my 20 amp to 30 amp adapter.
I have to get one of those!
Thanks NavyLCDR
MMC(SW)(RET)
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07-08-2022, 09:03 AM
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Location: Richmond VA
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A surge protector usually has the same LEDs to display wiring status and they're about the same cost as the simple LED "meters." So rather than just verifying the power is good these remain in the outlet and provide some surge protection at the same time.
50a and 30a available from dozens of PRC sources on Amazon in your choice of colors. Heck, I may get one despite my feeling that surge protection is as necessary as asteroid protection -- yeah, it could happen. But for $20 or $30 why not?
-- Chuck
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07-08-2022, 09:18 AM
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I also ran a 30a outlet out to the side of the garage to plug in. I upsized the wire so if i ever need a 50 i can just swap out the breaker and the receptacle. I use the camper as a nice hiding place from the kids and need a/c, tv, fridge and microwave. Also comes in handy for cleaning in conditioned space after trips.
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07-08-2022, 11:16 AM
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3boxerss
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Location: NW Ohio
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We used an extension cord for years until we had a 30 amp installed. Our newest camper would trip the breaker if you turned on the air. We usually just leave the fridge an the air on. We frequently sleep out there at nite. Just make sure you get a heavy duty extension cord.
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07-08-2022, 11:22 AM
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We're getting a bit complicated.
The OP wanted to know is it ok to plug in at home using an extension cord and the pig tail just overnight to keep the batteries charged?
The answer is 'yes' depending on what he mean by 'pigtail.'
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07-08-2022, 05:25 PM
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Location: Whitehouse, Ohio
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It is OK as long the appliance is not on to keep the battery charge. I don't know what your home are set up. What I have set at my home next to my garage that was installed by my son. A 30-amp 120 box on the outside wall and wired to the in-house circuit 20-amp breaker by itself. I can run everything just like at the campground.
Just wish I have a sewer hook-up.
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07-08-2022, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse_snowbird
We're getting a bit complicated.
The OP wanted to know is it ok to plug in at home using an extension cord and the pig tail just overnight to keep the batteries charged?
The answer is 'yes' depending on what he mean by 'pigtail.'
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+1, ignore all the other complicated, paranoid OMG don't do it BS. As you've stated all you will be doing is charging batteries; it's completely fine and safe.
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07-09-2022, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevevermont
It is OK as long the appliance is not on to keep the battery charge. I don't know what your home are set up. What I have set at my home next to my garage that was installed by my son. A 30-amp 120 box on the outside wall and wired to the in-house circuit 20-amp breaker by itself. I can run everything just like at the campground.
Just wish I have a sewer hook-up.
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1st, one of the major reasons for plugging in is to keep the batteries charged. If by "appliance to keep the battery charged" you mean the converter, you leave it turned on. That is the absolute last resort item to turn off if you need extra power to start an A/C unit or microwave.
2nd, it violates all kinds of electrical codes to wire a 30 amp RV receptacle into a 20 or 15 amp circuit.
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07-10-2022, 02:28 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Whitehouse, Ohio
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Hi Navy LCDR, I did make a mistake about the 20amp breaker. I meant to say that I have a 30 breaker in my house panel.
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07-10-2022, 03:28 PM
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Location: Saint Cloud, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vasnipe
I use my 20 amp to 30 amp adapter.
I have to get one of those!
Thanks NavyLCDR
MMC(SW)(RET)
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The one NavyLCDR posted is for 50 amp testing. This is a similar one for testing 30 amp outlets.
https://www.amazon.com/WELLUCK-Pedes...946VGK9L&psc=1
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07-11-2022, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kccycle2003
is it ok to plug in at home using an extension cord and the pig tail just overnight to keep the batteries charged?
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We plug in all the time at home. Actually upgrading our home plug to 50 amp so that we can run both AC units if needed. We’ve always plugged in once we hit the driveway and used a good extension cord without issues. 30 years.
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07-11-2022, 07:00 PM
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Member
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Location: Windsor, Ontario
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Mine is always plugged in, and in the winter months in canada i plug in electric mouse noise plugs. Works well for me. I do monitor the battery to ensure it doesn't heat up thats all…
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07-11-2022, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NavyLCDR
2nd, it violates all kinds of electrical codes to wire a 30 amp RV receptacle into a 20 or 15 amp circuit.
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That's more a nuisance than a code violation as the 15 or 20 amp breaker will trip. While I'm not a licensed electrician, I recall learning that there isn't a code for under-sizing your breakers.
It's when you do the reverse and put a 30 amp RV receptacle on a 50 amp Circuit Breaker(like into half of an electric clothes dryer circuit) that you're going to start burning things down. That's 2014 NEC 210.19(A)(1): General. Branch-circuit conductors shall have an ampacity not less than the maximum load to be served.
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07-11-2022, 07:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Richmond VA
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It's OK regardless of what outlet and electrical cord is used or for how long. Your RV or camper. Your power. The sky is not falling.
-- Chuck
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07-11-2022, 07:39 PM
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RV Power
I installed a dedicated 120V 30A service on the outside next to the garage door for our TT. And where we keep the TT, when not preparing for a trip, I installed a 120V 30A service at my shop and keep the TT plugged in all of the time.
The Air Conditioner is set for 85 degrees and the converter automatically takes care of the needs of the battery. I do check things on a weekly basis. Thus when we are ready to travel, I move the TT to the house, turn on the refrigerator, and check the other systems for proper operation.
Both the house and the shop have "whole house" surge protectors which are permanent installations. These have indicator lights, thus we know if they are in working order. Many surge protectors are "one-shot" devices and unless there is some indication on the device, one does not know if they are working or not.
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07-12-2022, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kccycle2003
is it ok to plug in at home using an extension cord and the pig tail just overnight to keep the batteries charged?
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Yes. If you have a good outdoor extension cord plug into a 120/- 30amp adaptor, that will be fine. That’s how I cool my frig for a couple of days before I leave on my summer trips. Just don’t try to use the AC.
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07-12-2022, 10:35 AM
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There must be something wrong with my trailer or garage wiring. I'm plugged into a 20 amp GFCI protected outlet in my garage. 30 amp to 15 amp doggone adapter plugged into garage outlet and 30 amp shore power cord plugged into the doggone.
I just camped for days in the trailer because my wife was COVID positive. Fridge was on AC (absorption type), water heater on electric, and A/C running, converter on. I had zero issues. No tripping breakers, no hot electrical connections.
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07-12-2022, 12:19 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kccycle2003
is it ok to plug in at home using an extension cord and the pig tail just overnight to keep the batteries charged?
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I keep the RV plugged in all the time while I'm home. It's only a 15 amp connection, because I don't have a 20 amp plug convenient to the RV. It serves to keep the fridge cold and keep the batteries nicely charged. If I try to run the AC, the breaker in the house trips, so I don't do that.
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