Portable waste tank

[scubieman]

About the same as me for the usage I believe.

[cheese53073]

We camped for 7-9 days at a time when we were tenters. With purchasing a TT this year we still have 3 weeks booked for 9 days each but also plan many more weekend trips typically Thurs-Sun.
Most of the campgrounds we frequent do not have full hook-ups so we will need to depend on a blue boy tank. We also will be using the campgrounds "facilities" for showers and "major" restroom transactions.
As this is our first season using a TT we will be borrowing our friends 42 gal tank during the week-long trips.

[cheese53073]

Originally Posted by sherdep

was at a county facility (Long Point Park in Brevard County) this weekend and they had a sign up that stated something about the Blue Boys being illegal in the state of Florida and did not want them to be dumped at there dump station.

I wonder why the tanks would be illegal? I think not allowing their use would lead towards people just letting their gray water drip out at the sites. as we all know this will lead to a wet sloppy and smelly camping situation.

[jimh]

we can make 3 days on two 40gal gray tanks. maybe 4. on the black, 7 days.
we do not use any of the campground facilities. naturally, u could go longer if u used the public facilities at the campground.
when the shower/bath area tank fills, i open both gray tanks and keep the cap on. that lets the bath area tank equalize with the kitchen tank. then i close them off. i never cut the black into the gray tanks or vice versa.
that is for two people. if my wife were a little more conservative, we may make an extra day on the gray.

[sherdep]

Originally Posted by cheese53073

I wonder why the tanks would be illegal? I think not allowing their use would lead towards people just letting their gray water drip out at the sites. as we all know this will lead to a wet sloppy and smelly camping situation.

it is actually a state law and not sure myself - probably some polition went camping and ran into the same issue you described and figured he would takle that on the agenda

[Herk7769]

Just spent 2 months in Florida dry camping and this is news to me. If they arrested all the campers in Florida using Blue Boys, Florida would be bankrupt paying for the prison space. This is just silly on the face of it.

As to draining your poo into a bucket; have at it. Just not at MY campground please. It is a smelly enough job with the right equipment.

As to waiting until you "NEED" to dump, remember that once it is full to the toilet it is gonna be a real problem dumping since the vent stack is now blocked and it is gonna smell. If you decide to THEN drive to the dump station the sloshing black water could be shooting out your vent stack as you drive. This will cover your roof with a wonderful brown stain and really enthuse your neighbors (as well as your DW).

Do yourself a favor and drive to the dump site the first time the "Full" light comes on. There will be enough air space at the top of the tank to prevent that from happening.

[Herk7769]

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

http://www.gonecamping.net/stories/fl_graywater.html

Only in Florida. What lunacy. Silly on the face of it for sure.

Not only that! But to travel on the Toll Roads (like the Turnpike and Bridges) you MUST use SUNPASS or a new theft device called "Toll-By-Plate").

If you have SUNPASS you pay the toll (every 5 or 10 miles) like normal. If you don't they take a photo of your plate and mail you a bill for the toll; PLUS a 2.50 Admin fee.

Beginning Saturday, Feb. 19, all Turnpike tolls are collected electronically between the U.S. 1 (Exit 1) and County Line Road (Exit 47) interchanges in Miami-Dade County, and cash tolls are not accepted. Motorists will use either SunPass or TOLL‑BY‑PLATE, and everyone will enjoy the benefit of paying their toll without having to stop.

SunPass is Florida’s prepaid electronic toll program. For customers without SunPass, the alternative is TOLL-BY-PLATE, a collection system that takes a photo of a vehicle’s license plate as it travels under tolling equipment installed overhead and mails a bill for the tolls incurred over a 30-day period, plus a $2.50 administrative charge, to the registered owner of the vehicle. For additional information about all-electronic tolling in Miami-Dade County, click here.


I think they don't want us down there any more.

[Herk7769]

Here is the Florida Law.
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/environme...forms/64e6.pdf

No where does it prohibit "Blue Boy" type totes, except by interpretation. That is why some parks in Florida enforce it as "law" and others do not apply it at all.

As you can see, this statute has been "Law" in Florida since 2006.

[sherdep]

and you didnt believe me - good investigating Lou

[Herk7769]

Originally Posted by sherdep

and you didnt believe me - good investigating Lou

It is not that I did not believe YOU.
I had a hard time believing what you reported!

As I discovered, there is no lack of LUNACY in Florida.

This is a family forum, but you have no idea what bad words were flying around the computer over here as I researched this issue. This law was written to regulate Port-a-Potties. The wording is SO vague it can be interpreted by overly ambitious (anti-Snowbird) EPA enforcers to apply to RV portable dump tanks. I can't believe there is no exception for RV portable tanks; but there you go.

[tentcamper1]

you could use this!!

[cheese53073]

And it even has his name on it

[Herk7769]

Gak...

[revrnd]

Is Blue Boy a brand? I can't find anything online about them. I emailed Barker about their products & where to buy, but got no reply. I'm aware of Thetford & Tote-n-Stor (getting rid of 15 gal' model from pop up).

Any pros or cons to the various brands? I think the pneumatic tire upgrade is common to all brands.

[Bill Crawford]

if you spend a lot of time at this sight and others do too, maybe you can talk the camp ground into getting a honey wagon...

[DC_In_NC]

@ revrnd....I don't think "Blue Boy" is a brand, I think it's someones nickname for their waste tank. Barker is the brand I purchased from J C Witney, they had the best price. I think it all depends on what features you are looking for......some have a side discharge and some have 4 wheels. I have 2 wheels (22 gal tank) so it can be hard to move for some people, my wife couldn't not handle a full tank or 1/2 full for that matter.

Good luck

[Hybrid21SS]

I want to try what at least one other here does. Leave the sewer cap on the TT on and open both gray and black valves and let the gray transfer to the black giving you more precious gray water room. Even with the kids not showering our 30 gallon gray fills up quick. Sure some, hopefully gray only, will come out when you go to dump. But I wear nitrile gloves so I can live with that. I don't see blue boy in my future. We went to the TT to make camping a little easier than tent camping. Don't need/want any additional chores..

[prof_fate]

Would the gray run into the black, or would you just be making a nasty cocktail that ends up in both tanks - as it is you don't need to add chems to the gray tank.

Doing the blue boy routine isn't that bad really. You're not dumping the whole tank and you only need to do it every other day or so, takes maybe 15 minutes.

[Herk7769]

I would NEVER even consider this even if you restricted your potty to "P" only!

With #2 and TP in your gray water tank you won't be able to flush it get the solids out completely and it will never be clean again. Sloshing when traveling will empty your traps and you will get stink into the camper forever after.

Again; a very bad idea, IMHO.

[MtnGuy]

Originally Posted by herk7769

Again; a very bad idea, IMHO.

Big time agree !!!