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Old 03-18-2012, 09:03 PM   #1
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Spaire Tire bike rack?

Is anyone using one of these???...

Amazon.com: Allen Deluxe 3-Bike Spare Tire Mount Rack: Sports & Outdoors

Need to haul 3 bikes.....always too much crap in the bed......hitch is full
thought about putting on on the front of the truck?......anyone doing that???


But what about the license plate???.....worried about being pulled over because the tag is covered up?
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:13 PM   #2
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If you do, you'll probably be losing your rear bumper, spare tire, bikes and bike rack on route.

The 4" steel bumper is only 0.080 thick welded on the ends of the frame rails. The bumper will fail at the welds if you hang too much weight off the spare tire.

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Old 03-18-2012, 09:21 PM   #3
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hummmm....good point
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If you do, you'll probably be losing your rear bumper, spare tire, bikes and bike rack on route.
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Athens, unless Shamrock used much sturdier frames and bumpers in 2002, than you are out of luck.

We've all considered it and its a busy topic on the forum. Conclusion is its a bad idea.

A hitch mounted to the front of your truck is a better alternative.
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FWIW, I moved the spare tire and carrier from the rear bumper and made a mount for it in the front of our 5th wheel basement. I made a mount that bolts onto the rear bumber and carries two bikes. The rack and bikes weigh 90 lbs, the spare tire and carrier were 65 lbs, so only 25 lb more weight on the bumper. I check the bumper mounting welds every trip...all is good after 2 years use.

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Is anyone using one of these???...

Amazon.com: Allen Deluxe 3-Bike Spare Tire Mount Rack: Sports & Outdoors

Need to haul 3 bikes.....always too much crap in the bed......hitch is full
thought about putting on on the front of the truck?......anyone doing that???


But what about the license plate???.....worried about being pulled over because the tag is covered up?
Been there done that.

Tried them all and now the bikes ride inside the camper again.
I never have to worry about getting to the campground and finding my bikes; spare tire; and bumper are on the interstate somewhere.

The cracked weld shots are not mine; but they could have been.

When I used the spare tire mount bike carrier I could not keep the end caps on. The bumper twisted so much it was popping them out.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:18 AM   #7
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yea, Athens, you don't want a bike rack on the bumper, let alone the flimsy spare tire bracket.

you'll be watching the bikes, the rack and the tire bouncing down the road, in your rear view mirror.

your Shamrock has an ultra-light frame and only by having a welding shop weld and brace a receiver to the frame and bumper, can it support a bike rack with bikes on it.
for newer trailers, this mod would void the warranty but since yours is out of warranty, you don't have to worry about that.
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front plate covered

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thought about putting on on the front of the truck?......anyone doing that???


But what about the license plate???.....worried about being pulled over because the tag is covered up?
the front of your truck
after reading much here
seems to be your best bet
the police usually don't bother campers traveling
that have the front plate covered with bikes
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As you can see from my "front mount" bike hitch, they do not block the headlights.

However, they DO move around a lot up there and my hood took a beating from the handle bars. No amount of tying it down and jamming stuff in the hitch mount would stop it from doing so. Every wind gust on the freeway lifted the whole assembly and "flew" it into the hood.

The hitch itself is low to the ground reducing your ground clearance. Even with the bike mount off, I was hitting parking lot concrete bumper stops routinely. With it on, you run the risk of damage just going out to dinner.

Every time you move the camper the bike hitch had to go on; bikes loaded; everything tied down; get where you are going and take everything off if you want to go out to eat. PITA

However, of all the other choices for ultra-lite campers it is the best "outside" option.
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Been there done that.

Tried them all and now the bikes ride inside the camper again.
I never have to worry about getting to the campground and finding my bikes; spare tire; and bumper are on the interstate somewhere.

The cracked weld shots are not mine; but they could have been.

When I used the spare tire mount bike carrier I could not keep the end caps on. The bumper twisted so much it was popping them out.

Those pics of the broken weld belong to me. That happened with just the weight of the spare tire. As I stated in an earlier post when I posted thoses pics, I did carry a couple of bikes for a couple of short trips. I removed them because of the damage done to the frame on the rear window, not because of the bumper strength. The welds broke long after I removed the bike rack. Bottom line is, those bumpers are not meant to carry the weight of a spare tire, let alone bikes. I only wish that the manufacturer can build a rearing bumper that can withstand the weight of a couple of bikes and still remain a "light weight" camper/fiver.
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Those pics of the broken weld belong to me.
Thanks Terry, I did say that they were not mine.

I just did not know where I got them as I put them in my "why I don't have a bumper bike hitch" file.
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Thanks Terry, I did say that they were not mine.

I just did not know where I got them as I put them in my "why I don't have a bumper bike hitch" file.

That's fine Lou. I just wanted to point out the fact that the rear bumper is not intended for a tire, let alone a bike rack. I have since relocated my spare to the basement storage and my bikes to the back of the truck. I have not yet fixed the welds. I do hope to reinforce the bumper to the frame, so that I can put the tire back there.
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Need to haul 3 bikes.....always too much crap in the bed......hitch is full
If the bed of the truck is full, why not rig up something to carry the bikes above the bed ???
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If the bed of the truck is full, why not rig up something to carry the bikes above the bed ???

I like that idea. I was wondering if there is a manufactured bike rack product that you can put the bikes transversely across the front of the bed.
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I like that idea. I was wondering if there is a manufactured bike rack product that you can put the bikes transversely across the front of the bed.
I used a couple of old gutter mount Yak racks from a previous use, fabricated a "gutter" to fit on my Trak Rac rails, added a couple of Yak Copper Head bike bike racks (also from a previous use), and came up with a solution to carry my bikes out of the way. A little difficult to get things out of the front of my bed sometimes, but that is a small price to pay for a secure way to carry my bikes. (See my signature pic)

Someone could probably easily make a wood or metal rail that mounted into the stake pockets, and come up with a solution of some type of cross member and a couple of these (Fork Style Roof Mounted Bike Rack - Swagman Fork Down Swagman Roof Bike Racks S64710)

For about $90-100 and some fabrication, you can carry 2 bikes out of the way.
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As you can see from my "front mount" bike hitch, they do not block the headlights.

However, they DO move around a lot up there and my hood took a beating from the handle bars. No amount of tying it down and jamming stuff in the hitch mount would stop it from doing so. Every wind gust on the freeway lifted the whole assembly and "flew" it into the hood.

The hitch itself is low to the ground reducing your ground clearance. Even with the bike mount off, I was hitting parking lot concrete bumper stops routinely. With it on, you run the risk of damage just going out to dinner.

Every time you move the camper the bike hitch had to go on; bikes loaded; everything tied down; get where you are going and take everything off if you want to go out to eat. PITA

However, of all the other choices for ultra-lite campers it is the best "outside" option.
So exactly how do you have them on the front???.......thought about a "Trunk" bike rack on the front end....not sure how that would go?......

@herk .....how you doing it?
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They make a front 2 inch receiver that bolts to the front of your truck. Then you just use the same bike mount as you would use on the rear.

Ford F-150 Front Mount Trailer Hitch | etrailer.com
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There is a bike rake that will attach to the front of the trailer over the gas tanks.
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There is a bike rake that will attach to the front of the trailer over the gas tanks.
it's from a Canadian company called Arvika/Toppoprails and the tongue bike racks are EXPENSIVE! there are two models, the 7000 and the DFX.

and they're extremely hard to find in the U.S.
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They make a front 2 inch receiver that bolts to the front of your truck. Then you just use the same bike mount as you would use on the rear.

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Lou, With the front mounted bike rack, do you know if there is restriction on the amount of depth you can have up front? I would need a bike rack that holds 4 bikes. I was going to install one on the bumper of the TT but after reading on here I don't think I want to chance it.
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