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07-29-2019, 03:53 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Originally Posted by ependydad
I was swapping posts with 5picker and it reminded me of this electric hookup a while back. This is the first that I've seen a 50amp breaker that didn't have the connecting bar to make them trip at the same time.
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In this case it 'appears' that one 50a breaker feeds the 30a receptacle and the other 50a breaker feeds what looks to be a 15a/20a household duplex outlet under where you are plugged in. A BIG no-no either way.
I can't tell from the photo but what kind of receptacle is under where you are plugged into and is that an adapter? And if it is a regular 15a/20a outlet, why were you plugged into it instead of the 30a outlet.
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07-29-2019, 04:02 PM
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#7742
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New port Richey FL
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That would be the 50 amp. Not an adapter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
In this case it 'appears' that one 50a breaker feeds the 30a receptacle and the other 50a breaker feeds what looks to be a 15a/20a household duplex outlet under where you are plugged in. A BIG no-no either way.
I can't tell from the photo but what kind of receptacle is under where you are plugged into and is that an adapter? And if it is a regular 15a/20a outlet, why were you plugged into it instead of the 30a outlet.
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07-29-2019, 04:06 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 19,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiels7
That would be the 50 amp. Not an adapter.
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I'm not saying it isn't but look right above where the plug is inserted and tell me that doesn't look like part of a 15a/20a duplex outlet?
Follow Doug's link (by clicking on the picture) and then once at Flickr, click on the picture to make it larger.
I suppose someone could have modified the box with a hole saw and inserted a 50a receptacle???????
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07-29-2019, 04:22 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Southwest Alabama
Posts: 9,850
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It looks to me like they removed the duplex receptacle and trimmed the opening and installed the 50 amp receptacle.
Originally there was probably a 30 and a 20 amp breaker and they just replaced those with two 50 amp breakers.
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07-29-2019, 04:36 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
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Looks like the hippy folk tt will never traded in Later RJD
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07-29-2019, 04:41 PM
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#7746
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 19,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
It looks to me like they removed the duplex receptacle and trimmed the opening and installed the 50 amp receptacle.
Originally there was probably a 30 and a 20 amp breaker and they just replaced those with two 50 amp breakers.
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Probably right... modified.
Wonder if they're still feeding the 30a receptacle with one of the 50a legs? Hope not.
As far as the two separate 50a breakers... not really a big deal as far as supplying current... as long as each breaker are on separate phases. (which could be plausible in this box)
The double breaker with a bar typically gets you that in a conventional power distribution box and also assures when you turn off the breaker, BOTH legs of the feed are disconnected.
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07-29-2019, 04:52 PM
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#7747
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
In this case it 'appears' that one 50a breaker feeds the 30a receptacle and the other 50a breaker feeds what looks to be a 15a/20a household duplex outlet under where you are plugged in. A BIG no-no either way.
I can't tell from the photo but what kind of receptacle is under where you are plugged into and is that an adapter? And if it is a regular 15a/20a outlet, why were you plugged into it instead of the 30a outlet.
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Sorry, Tapatalk didn’t show me this and made it seem like I had seen all of the messages here.
But, like mentioned- it was a 50amp outlet and I was plugged directly into it.
I don’t think I had power to the rig until both were flipped on. But I don’t know if it was just my impression (A/Cs not kicking on, though I have at least one on each leg) or if it was the EMS preventing power or if I truly didn’t have power until both were on.
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07-29-2019, 08:15 PM
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#7748
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Things you see in an RV Park
Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
I was swapping posts with 5picker and it reminded me of this electric hookup a while back. This is the first that I've seen a 50amp breaker that didn't have the connecting bar to make them trip at the same time.
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Maybe you should have gotten a coat hanger, welding rod, cotter key or something and help them out.
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07-29-2019, 08:19 PM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
Wonder where the breaker was for the 30A outlet? Or, maybe they used one of the 50A breakers for the 30A outlet which would not surprise me at all.
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I did wonder the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Iwannacamp
Maybe you should have gotten a coat hanger, welding rod, cotter key or something and help them out.
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Mmmmhmmmm. 
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07-29-2019, 08:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New port Richey FL
Posts: 1,464
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I do agree with the box being modified. I was mainly commenting about what plug was in use. I haven't seen one with out the 15/20. As long as it was done right.
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Originally Posted by 5picker
Probably right... modified.
Wonder if they're still feeding the 30a receptacle with one of the 50a legs? Hope not.
As far as the two separate 50a breakers... not really a big deal as far as supplying current... as long as each breaker are on separate phases. (which could be plausible in this box)
The double breaker with a bar typically gets you that in a conventional power distribution box and also assures when you turn off the breaker, BOTH legs of the feed are disconnected.
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07-29-2019, 10:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 4,552
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
In this case it 'appears' that one 50a breaker feeds the 30a receptacle and the other 50a breaker feeds what looks to be a 15a/20a household duplex outlet under where you are plugged in. A BIG no-no either way.
I can't tell from the photo but what kind of receptacle is under where you are plugged into and is that an adapter? And if it is a regular 15a/20a outlet, why were you plugged into it instead of the 30a outlet.
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This reminds me, when asking for campground referrals, to ask specifically about the safety and adequacy of their electrical system.
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07-30-2019, 06:08 AM
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Canadian Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,235
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It looks like there’s also a weatherproof outlet box on the opposite side with a 15A extension cord plugged into it. I wonder where the breaker is for that receptacle.
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07-30-2019, 08:20 AM
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#7753
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itat
It looks like there’s also a weatherproof outlet box on the opposite side with a 15A extension cord plugged into it. I wonder where the breaker is for that receptacle.
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If I recall correctly, that was a cable TV connection.
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07-30-2019, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 3,188
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Here is one that cannot hide in the woods.
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Durham, NC
2021 Jayco Class C model 27U
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07-30-2019, 11:02 AM
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#7755
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: 90 miles North of Gods country. :)
Posts: 119
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Not in a park, but and oldie and a goodie. 
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07-30-2019, 12:11 PM
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#7756
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central FL
Posts: 134
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At Topsail Hill years ago...
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07-30-2019, 04:40 PM
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#7757
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 2,947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigGuy87
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I'd love to get my hands on one of those... Everyone I've seen the RV section was in really bad shape. 
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2024 Sunseeker 2150SLEF / Ford E-350 Due Off-line 11 April 2024.
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07-30-2019, 04:43 PM
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#7758
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New port Richey FL
Posts: 1,464
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I was just looking those up. That's funny.
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Originally Posted by BigGuy87
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07-30-2019, 04:45 PM
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#7759
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New port Richey FL
Posts: 1,464
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Guest house?
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Originally Posted by 2manytoyz
At Topsail Hill years ago...
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07-30-2019, 05:03 PM
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#7760
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
Posts: 7,616
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robbiels7
Guest house?
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Mother in Laws house
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