This could get interesting-----

[TitanMike]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...edgdhp&pc=U531


No more small gas engines in CA after 2024 --- Including generators.

Sounds like boondockers will need to have good solar systems and most likely LiFePo4 batteries.

Wonder if this applies to visiting campers too.

Who knows, maybe Honda will throw some money into the campaign to get this law overturned

[PopFla]

2024

One word explains it all. California.

[5er_tom]

I find no reason to go there. I was born there and lived there until 1978. Nope, not going back for any reason.

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by PopFla

2024

One word explains it all. California.

Fixed it. Could claim it was a test to see if anyone read the link though


All these laws in CA are kind of like inflating an already filled balloon. I keep wondering when just one more puff (law/regulation) will cause the State to explode and cause everyone to move here


Also wondering when the State will extract the last drop of water from it's already declining sources

[NavyLCDR]

The law bans only the sale of those items, not possession or use of the items. Don't get me wrong, it's still a horrible law. The problem with California politics is that it migrates north and Oregon and Washington will soon follow. But yes, if motor homes are still legal to sell in California (and they will probably ban those too), I wonder if they will have to sell them without generators for those models that normally have factory installed generators?

[RedLdr1]

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[IchLiebeBier]

Well they better start upgrading their electrical grid. Rolling blackouts now, and they aren't even charging electric stuff en masse yet.

[NavyLCDR]

Here's another similar thread:
https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ws-241534.html

With the current fossil fuel attack happening, and it sure looks like a predicted energy shortage coming up in the areas of electricity, liquid fuels and gas fuels...I would say it is probably wise for RV owners to start seriously looking at LiFePO4 batteries and solar. We might start finding our RVs to be our safe havens when we either no longer have the capability (as in it's just not there), or cannot afford gas and electricity for our homes. I think this is becoming more and more of a potential dark reality (pun intended) rather than just conspiracy theories.

[D W]

I guess they'll figure out where all the electricity is going to come from by 2035, because right now they're hard pressed to keep the lights on as it is. They ain't going to power the state with wind and solar. This could be the biggest boondoggle in the history of U.S. Industrialization.

[bikendan]

Originally Posted by 5er_tom

I find no reason to go there. I was born there and lived there until 1978. Nope, not going back for any reason.

I was born there and lived there for 60 years. We left and will never go back to live there. But we still will visit friends and family there and camp in the still beautiful and wondrous state.

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by NavyLCDR

The law bans only the sale of those items, not possession or use of the items. Don't get me wrong, it's still a horrible law. The problem with California politics is that it migrates north and Oregon and Washington will soon follow. But yes, if motor homes are still legal to sell in California (and they will probably ban those too), I wonder if they will have to sell them without generators for those models that normally have factory installed generators?

If use is not banned but one can't buy a new one, logic might suggest that there will be a large underground market for Boondockers to shop in when looking for a portable generator. Underground often translates to places where stolen items (generators in this case), are readily available.


Somehow I see nothing good coming from this for campers or the environment.

[Traveling Circus]

Originally Posted by TitanMike

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...edgdhp&pc=U531


No more small gas engines in CA after 2024 --- Including generators.

Sounds like boondockers will need to have good solar systems and most likely LiFePo4 batteries.

Wonder if this applies to visiting campers too.

Who knows, maybe Honda will throw some money into the campaign to get this law overturned

When Gavin refuses all imports from China, I’ll take his concern for climate change seriously. Until then I’ll live in Florida, and camp in the SE where we love freedom.

[NavyLCDR]

According to another news source: The new law applies to any engine that produces less than 25 gross horsepower, including lawn mowers, weed trimmers, chainsaws, golf carts, specialty vehicles, generators and pumps.

Well.... that makes the solution pretty simple.

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by Traveling Circus

When Gavin refuses all imports from China, I’ll take his concern for climate change seriously. Until then I’ll live in Florida, and camp in the SE where we love freedom.

What makes you think he isn't? Look at all those container ships off the coast that can't get unloaded.

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by NavyLCDR

According to another news source: The new law applies to any engine that produces less than 25 gross horsepower, including lawn mowers, weed trimmers, chainsaws, golf carts, specialty vehicles, generators and pumps.

Well.... that makes the solution pretty simple.

Attachment 264207

Coming soon to a landscaper in CA:

[NMWildcat]

Ok, so you ban the sale of an unwanted item but you can still own them. I love it! It is a global economy and I can order stuff from anywhere! Just like they banned the sale of diesel delete/tuner kits, so now we order them from Canada Good grief....

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by NMWildcat

Ok, so you ban the sale of an unwanted item but you can still own them. I love it! It is a global economy and I can order stuff from anywhere! Just like they banned the sale of diesel delete/tuner kits, so now we order them from Canada Good grief....

This is nothing new. Remember when the high wattage headlights and " driving lights" came out. Illegal to use on highway so mfr's just labeled "for off road use only". More were sold for highway vehicles than off road use by many times

List is long.

[Capacitor]

So no weedeaters, use a sickle, no log splitters, use a sledgehammer and wedge, no chainsaw, use an axe, no leaf blower, use a broom, no lawnmowers, use a push mower, no gas powered hedge trimmer, use the old scissor type. I see the cost of landscaping going up. This is a great California idea, we come up with the best!

[dsjohns71]

Originally Posted by Capacitor

So no weedeaters, use a sickle, no log splitters, use a sledgehammer and wedge, no chainsaw, use an axe, no leaf blower, use a broom, no lawnmowers, use a push mower, no gas powered hedge trimmer, use the old scissor type. I see the cost of landscaping going up. This is a great California idea, we come up with the best!

Umm battery powered everything, unless they outlaw those too.. gotta hate Cali.

[Capacitor]

Batteries need charging. Where does that come from? Can’t imagine the battery I would need to work my 25 ton log splitter.