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Old 02-05-2015, 03:46 PM   #1
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Why no blue ray players in new campers?

anyone have a guess as to why mfg's are still putting DVD players in the new units? Looking at a new flagstaff that has Bluetooth capability but still has DVD technology. Most of the movies I have purchased for home over the last 2 years are blue rays. I'll have to install my own blue ray player if we get the new camper.

not whining, just wondering. have separate blueray in my camper now I can just transfer over, but would be so much neater without it.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:20 PM   #3
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DVD works for me, I have never bought a blue ray nor do I own a blue ray player
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:28 PM   #4
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My Cedar Creek has Blu-Ray and a bunch of other stuff I don't know how to work.
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Blue rays are associated HDMI. I haven't heard of any manufactures running HDMI through out their rigs. I'm going to agree with "It's the cost".
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:05 PM   #6
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Forest River does have some HDMI in certain models.

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Old 02-05-2015, 05:06 PM   #7
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Blu ray players

We toured the FR factory in Sept. Actually saw them build one - Husband was engineer for GM, built the machines that built the engines - you don't want to know what he said about that place. But I degress, he asked them about putting in Blu Rays: "Engineering just doesn't get it!" That's the answer!!!
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:07 PM   #8
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It's basically a catch-22. Manufacturers aren't doing Blu-Ray because the audio suppliers don't make them. The audio suppliers aren't making them because there isn't a demand from the manufacturers. Until one of the audio guys creates an RV radio with a blu-Ray, and it becomes an asked for upgrade, you're not going to see them become standard.



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Old 02-05-2015, 05:14 PM   #9
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Let me play on the Forest River site a little and see what models do list them.

I see the Berkshires have them:

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I would rather they put the money and effort toward quality control and decent tires.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:06 PM   #11
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DVD works for me, I have never bought a blue ray nor do I own a blue ray player
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Also, with streaming on the rise, neither Blue Ray nor DVD are going to be around much longer. If you want it, you'll download it from the cloud.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:20 PM   #12
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Ok, and I too agree with the sales pitch. I also agree that some flat screen TVs have a slot for HDMI. And I concede that the "Front Plate" on the entertainment center has a HDMI slot. This slot may or may not produce 1280dpi via HDMI cabling, to one?, of the TVs. Most likely this slot is for your portable device (lap top/tablet for the ability to communicate (not viewing in HDMI). I truly believe it is a far reach to say Forest River models are Blur Ray compatible.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:23 PM   #13
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The technology is to new, jensen runs ten years behind.
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Also, with streaming on the rise, neither Blue Ray nor DVD are going to be around much longer. If you want it, you'll download it from the cloud.

I think Blue Ray and DVDs will be around for quite awhile. There are a lot of people who don't want or need expensive data plans and streaming is not available in many rural areas due to geography, etc. Also, if you get internet via satellite there's the Fair Access Policy to contend with plus the latency issues and download speeds. I don't see much changing for a few years.
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:58 AM   #15
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DVD works for me, I have never bought a blue ray nor do I own a blue ray player
I bought a blue ray player several years ago. I have yet to buy one single blue ray disk. I occasionally use it to play a DVD but anymore I prefer Netflix or Plex MS over a DVD player. So naturally, I'm going to X2 this comment.

IMHO DVD's became easy to create/copy etc. so Blue Ray was invented to curb that...much like I-phone came out with a new interface trying to force everyone to by new charging cables and docking stations after cheap knocks flooded amazon.
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Why is it that most of the players don't even have HDMI output? How would you feel if you had a CD player that hissed like an old tape player? That's basically what you are getting if not running HDMI. You have media capable of producing 1080i resolution running through a cable capable of carrying 480i signals. Your nice new HD television in your camper is showing you a picture equivalent to that of a VCR. It makes NO sense. Best I can tell is that the industry likes to support it's own- and the Concertone (Genesis) and the new iRV lines are a local product. Well, the company is local, but they are produced in China. The Jensen line is used some, but not a lot, and it is a superior product in most ways to the other units out there at it's price point. Jensen is actually on the bottom of the totem pole in terms of general quality and quality of the interface in the 12V world (non RV). I was in mobile electronics for years and no way would I ever have sold someone a Jensen CD player, yet that is one of our best options available for an RV. IF the RV manufacturers would use them, I am confident that someone like JVC, Sony, Clarion, Pioneer, etc.- one of the big companies that produces QUALITY 12V systems, could create an RV DVD player that was: blu-ray, HDMI out, bluetooth, 50W per channel and would have a great interface and WORK every time you used it for a wholesale cost in the $250 range.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:37 AM   #17
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Glad they don't put Sony Betamax in the RV's. They weighed about 60 lbs.
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Just bought a small Blu-Ray player at WallyWorld,hooked it's HDMI output to one of the TV's HDMI inputs,total time 10 mins to install and cost 75.00 for the player.Since I have netflix at home I use my blu-Rays and other dvds in the RV. No big deal.
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Another modification to add to the list? Gotta love the new toys!
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We have an Aviator. It has bluetooth, blue Ray, and a wireless router. With a sony pad that can control, fireplace, tv and blue ray player. Ask your dealer to put that in your deal. If they want to sell bad enough they can that,
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