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Old 12-19-2016, 09:22 PM   #1
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Winter over night stay

Maybe a weird question, but thought I would ask because I don't know if there would be damage to my TT if I allowed this. Basically my daughter wants to have a sleep over. She is 11. They want to spend the night in the camper sitting outside in 10 degree weather in the driveway. It is winterized. Would it harm it if she and her friends stayed in it. My wife is brave enough to stay with them Would it cause any issues with it freezing and thawing? It does have a furnace and they would not use water obviously. We are new owners and never had a TT before. It is strange but as a kid I guess I would think its cool also to sleep in a camper in the winter and pretend your stranded in a blizzard away from home.
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:29 PM   #2
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It will cause heavy condensation for sure, your windows will sweat like crazy.
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:29 PM   #3
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Go for it. With the wife there, you are covered. Have them bring sleeping bags or extra blankets, there will be a chill. That is kid time big time...
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Sounds like memories waiting to be made! I relax in mine frequently during the winter. To save propane, I would turn on an electric space heater for several hours before to get the chill out of the beds and furniture.
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:29 PM   #5
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Heck no. Think as a hotel you can unplug or trip the breaker on. I would not worry about a night or weekend about condescension cause it can be handled easily.
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Old 12-20-2016, 01:55 AM   #6
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Sounds like fun! If you're going to run a space heater- be aware of how it's plugged into your house. That could be too much for a simple extension cord.
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Old 12-20-2016, 05:30 AM   #7
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Make it clear to them that there is no water and they must come inside to use the bathroom.
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Hi Zorky

I live in Central Ohio too (between Sunbury and Johnstown). Its cold. We are also new to having a travel trailer (V-Lite 30WIKSS) and have only towed it home about a month ago. Have to admit, the wife and I camped in it one cold night in the driveway.. Everything was fine
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We use our fifth wheel as an extra bedroom, especially during the winter. We use the toilet, but we flush with gallons of water that are brought from the house for that specific purpose.
Is the water and sewer stuff going to freeze? You betcha, but it will thaw out and there will only be 3-4 gallons in that big 60 gallon tank. There is lots of room for it to expand and contract, so it's no big deal.

We have extra bedding for the beds, a good quartz heater that cannot tip over, the furnace still works.

Our out-of-town family try to get in their dibs on staying there early, like October for the Christmas holiday.

Over the years, both daughters have had sleep-overs in there during the late winter/early spring and it has been a hoot (at least for the parent staying in the house!) Not a lot of sleeping occurred in the fifth wheel, but games abounded and many movies were watched with popcorn.

We do have a 30 amp plug that we installed just for the fifth wheel beside where it's parked.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:17 AM   #10
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None whatsoever. Open your roof vents (assuming you have Maxxair) and keep the air moving. We have been winter camping for years with ZERO issues. It will be a blast.
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We use our fifth wheel as an extra bedroom, especially during the winter. We use the toilet, but we flush with gallons of water that are brought from the house for that specific purpose.
Is the water and sewer stuff going to freeze? You betcha, but it will thaw out and there will only be 3-4 gallons in that big 60 gallon tank. There is lots of room for it to expand and contract, so it's no big deal.

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The real issue here is not the tank freezing as you say there is lots of room to expand. The problem is that there will be water in the black dump line up to the gate valve. This will freeze and there is no room for expansion and you will crack the pipe and or valve.
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Go for it.
Let the kids have fun and make some memories along the way.
Create a little ventilation by cracking a window open slightly and a roof vent to keep the condensation down.
turn on the furnace or the electric fireplace (if equipped) and/or an electric heater.
No harm will come of the unit heating up and then cooling back down once done.
Your kids are going to give you a thumbs up for allowing them to have a fun evening with their friends!

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The real issue here is not the tank freezing as you say there is lots of room to expand. The problem is that there will be water in the black dump line up to the gate valve. This will freeze and there is no room for expansion and you will crack the pipe and or valve.
Maybe this will work. If you want to let them use the toilet, get a gallon or two of RV antifreeze and flush it down the toilet first. It will fill the black dump pipe and prevent it from freezing. Just a thought.

Also not nearly as much chance of damage from freezing in the dump pipe since it it not sealed on the back end. As the water freezes in the pipe it can push back into the tank and therefore not provide the pressure needed to crack the pipe. Don't ask me how I know.
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Old 12-20-2016, 01:48 PM   #14
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you should be fine. when done use something like damp rid to remove the excess moisture.
its not like you are going to be in it for days at a time.

and its not like you are in - 23 degree weather like us.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:49 PM   #15
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Lol. My toilet gets used no matter what I say. I just set a porta potty in the bath tub. Have fun!
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Old 12-20-2016, 06:26 PM   #16
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Lol. My toilet gets used no matter what I say. I just set a porta potty in the bath tub. Have fun!
mmm, beat your feet on the warm mississippi mud...
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:30 PM   #17
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dehumidifier

I use a noise machine when I sleep so I run a dehumidifier to get rid of the moisture and the extra noise doesn't bother me. I have a humidity gauge and have a 17 ft trailer so running the dehumidifier never has an issue with excess humidity.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:15 PM   #18
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It will be just fine. If your camper can't take a freeze / thaw cycle from using it, then it would fall apart going down the road.

Use it, its what its intended for.

Save your propane and use a couple 1500 watt space heater. You'll need to put each on its own circuit, as they use right around 12 amps, unless you have a 30 amp hookup at home. You could plug the trailer into one outlet, and then run an extension cord from the house from another outlet ON ANOTHER CIRCUIT NOT THE SAME CIRCUIT BREAKER to run another space heater - just snake it in through a window or something. For example, in my camper I can open an outside storage area and then access the area below one of my dinette seats, you could easily run an extension cord into the camper through there. Two space heaters should keep your trailer plenty toasty through the night.

To the folks commenting on condensation, yeah, it might get a bit of condensation. When she's done with her sleep over, open the vents up and let it dry out. No big deal.

They are kids, let them have fun. Rent them some movies and let them stay up all night in the camper.
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The real issue here is not the tank freezing as you say there is lots of room to expand. The problem is that there will be water in the black dump line up to the gate valve. This will freeze and there is no room for expansion and you will crack the pipe and or valve.
We've done the very thing with pouring water down the toilet after using it, plus a little anti-freeze to keep the drain pipe from freezing at the dump valve. Also used bottle water for brushing teeth and did the same with the gray water tank. Never had a problem with sub-freezing temps. Go for it and have some fun.
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zorky, You did say the wife will be with them. No worries...

Go ahead and let the kids do the camp out on the property. The bathroom is in the house so, the only thing is making sure they are all warm and snug.

You will never know what is a go no-go with the kids until they tell you.
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