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Old 10-19-2020, 08:45 AM   #1
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Wrapping up for winter?

Right now the plan is too keep my rig in a park during the winter I see I can get a fresh water hose with heat trace to keep it from freezing but what about the sewage line I’m sure I need to wrap it or something just wanted some ideas on that or hear from some experienced folks on best way. And what else I should do for winter that I’m not thinking about. Thank y’all!!
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Somewhat confused with your intent. You say you're "wrapping it up" for the winter, but you intend to leave a heated city water hose connected? I gather you expect a freeze. A heated CW water hose will only protect that hose from freezing. It will not prevent freezing of the RV internal plumbing. Your best bet is to do a complete winterization on the rig.

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Are you planning on staying in it over the winter?
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Sorry about confusion. Yes I plan on staying in it during winter months and wasn’t sure about sewage line freezing.
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Don't go cheap on the heated potable water line. Some folks over the winter replace their slinky with 4" hard pipe that doesn't collect moisture in the folds just something to consider.
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Just playing solution architect here. I suppose you could go with a Valterra Sewer Solution setup for waste. Hose for them is basically a 3/4" garden hose. You could get a length of the roofing heat tape wrapped around the hose and only turn it on when you go to dump. SS will work fine with a 75' hose.
Basically, this is a macerator type answer, but lower price than one with an electric pump macerator.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:49 AM   #7
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Are your holding tanks heated?

If so, just dump when necessary and put the sewer hose away in between.

If your holding tanks are not heated you'll need to think about other methods.

How cold do you expect it to get?
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Are your holding tanks heated?

If so, just dump when necessary and put the sewer hose away in between.

If your holding tanks are not heated you'll need to think about other methods.

How cold do you expect it to get?
What he said plus what kind of trailer do you have??
There's a big difference between an artic fox and a low end open bottom rig.
We need more information to narrow our guesses!
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What he said plus what kind of trailer do you have??
There's a big difference between an artic fox and a low end open bottom rig.
We need more information to narrow our guesses!
Profile says a Palomino Puma, a stick and tin trailer.
Definitely not a 4 season trailer. 3 season at best.
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My holding tank valves froze closed before I could get back to them. I lifted up the drain tube (I have PVC being at this site most of the year) and had to pour boiling water down to unthow the drain valves. So I'd suggest adding that heat tape/wire to your drain pipes from the tanks to just past the valves to keep them functioning in the cold. I like the PVC for no ridges and smooth inside to drain. I use the slinky when elsewhere.
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Profile also says he is in Phil Campbell, Alabama. Since it has been known to get pretty cold. If he is on a full hook-up site his best bet is to do away with the stinky slinky and use pvc pipe for his dump. Make sure there is a downward slope from the dump valve to the septic opening. This way will be much cheaper than a macerator pump.
If the site has a raised septic opening as some campgrounds are known to have then he will not have any choice other than a macerator.
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Sorry about confusion. Yes I plan on staying in it during winter months and wasn’t sure about sewage line freezing.
Now I understand. I misunderstood the "wrapping it up" term. Others have provided some good info for your situation.
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We're not done yet. We are at Ledges State Park near Boone, Iowa. It's snowing today and 35°F. But Thursday 72° is predicted. We'll be home Friday and winterize next week.
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Sewer hose in winter

We live in Erskine which is in central Alberta, Canada. We are full timers and had to stay here last winter, temperatures down to -40 degrees. We live in a 2017 Coachmen Chaparral. To answer your question re sewer hose we left ours attached without any heat, we just made sure that the hose was going downhill. We left both greywater tanks open except to flush them a few times through the winter. We flushed our blackwater tank every couple weeks as needed. We have 14 feet of freshwater hose exposed to the open which I wrapped with a heated wrap designed for hoses. We have a heated basement and heat pads under our tanks so we didn't need to worry about this. As insurance we wrapped our trailer with US Energy Products Double Sided Reflective Heat Radiant Barrier Aluminum Foil Insulation available on amazon or most building stores. That is all we did and stayed cozy all winter with an increased cost for propane for sure.
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We live in Erskine which is in central Alberta, Canada. We are full timers and had to stay here last winter, temperatures down to -40 degrees. We live in a 2017 Coachmen Chaparral. To answer your question re sewer hose we left ours attached without any heat, we just made sure that the hose was going downhill. We left both greywater tanks open except to flush them a few times through the winter. We flushed our blackwater tank every couple weeks as needed. We have 14 feet of freshwater hose exposed to the open which I wrapped with a heated wrap designed for hoses. We have a heated basement and heat pads under our tanks so we didn't need to worry about this. As insurance we wrapped our trailer with US Energy Products Double Sided Reflective Heat Radiant Barrier Aluminum Foil Insulation available on amazon or most building stores. That is all we did and stayed cozy all winter with an increased cost for propane for sure.
Hope you didn't leave the black tank dump valve open, if you did your setting yourself up for the famous poop pyramid which can be difficult to get cleaned out.
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My holding tank valves froze closed before I could get back to them. I lifted up the drain tube (I have PVC being at this site most of the year) and had to pour boiling water down to unthow the drain valves. So I'd suggest adding that heat tape/wire to your drain pipes from the tanks to just past the valves to keep them functioning in the cold. I like the PVC for no ridges and smooth inside to drain. I use the slinky when elsewhere.
Not being critical but funny experience. When we were kids mom would always say she had to take something out of the refrigerator to “unthaw” it for dinner. My brother the “scholar” would say you can’t unthaw something. If it is thawed already how can you unthaw it, freeze it again? Lol.
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Thumbs up Sewer hose in winter

We flushed our blackwater tank every couple weeks as needed.
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Old 10-20-2020, 07:15 PM   #18
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Lol thanks for all the info. I do have heated tanks but I’m not sure about all the terms but I’ll take some of the things I have learned from y’all and see if I can get this “ tin and sticks” from freezing up this winter. I really appreciate all the input
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:28 AM   #19
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Wink Tin & Sticks

Tin & sticks is a desirable upgrade! My Forest River Cruise Lite is paper & staples. When I called it that in front of the (very young) salesman, wondering how long the trailer could hold up even to occasional use, he blurted, "Oh, it'll last longer than you do!" (Yeah, I'm long in the tooth.) I started laughing, he realized what he'd just said, and the look on his face was priceless. Yeah, we bought it anyway.
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Old 10-22-2020, 11:43 AM   #20
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Lol thank you

I understand completely just didn’t understand why I guess. Thanks for the lighter side I will apply thank you
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