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Old 06-15-2022, 09:16 AM   #41
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Now it sounds like there will be a reservation system for the southern half of the park.
I think we have to give NPS time to figure out the plan.

I've got an upcoming trip, including reservations, to Yellowstone, and have already made parallel reservations elsewhere consistent with my existing reservations before and after my Yellowstone stay.

Holding these parallel reservations until a park plan is solid, then I'll cancel one or the other.

Either plan will work out fine with me.

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Old 06-15-2022, 09:27 AM   #42
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I think we have to give NPS time to figure out the plan.

I've got an upcoming trip, including reservations, to Yellowstone, and have already made parallel reservations elsewhere consistent with my existing reservations before and after my Yellowstone stay.

Holding these parallel reservations until a park plan is solid, then I'll cancel one or the other.

Either plan will work out fine with me.

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That sounds familiar. We were scheduled to stay in West Yellowstone for 6 nights 6/27-7/3. Trying to make the most of it, we're now scheduled to stay in Three Forks MT for 2 nights and we've shortened our West Yellowstone stay to 4 nights. If the park is still completely closed at the end of the month (expecting it will be), we will likely go to Jackson a couple days early. As frustrating as this is, we are making the most of it.
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That sounds familiar. We were scheduled to stay in West Yellowstone for 6 nights 6/27-7/3. Trying to make the most of it, we're now scheduled to stay in Three Forks MT for 2 nights and we've shortened our West Yellowstone stay to 4 nights. If the park is still completely closed at the end of the month (expecting it will be), we will likely go to Jackson a couple days early. As frustrating as this is, we are making the most of it.
Yes indeed. I wasn't planning on being in West Yellowstone until 8/7 but nonetheless was compelled to make alternate plans now.

Ended up at the Dubois / Wind River KOA Holiday for 5 nites instead of Yellowstone. Then heading to GNP.

Should be a nice site there, on the river (flooding stay away please) and national forests abound. Grand Tetons 66 miles away but I can manage that considering !

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So, I made parallel reservations near the Grand Tetons as an alternative to my stay at the West Yellowstone the 2nd week in August.

I went to modify my West Yellowstone KOA reservation, cutting it back from 4 nights to 1 night as I still need an overnight there on my way to GNP - and the West Yellowstone KOA is saying the campground is fully open and they are "hoping" the park (assuming the West Gate) will re-open 6/20.

Clearly, the parks northern areas are a disaster, just wondering how much of the park will truly be closed.



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Old 06-16-2022, 09:58 AM   #45
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the southern part of the park will be open soon the northern part may be closed for a few years .
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Old 06-16-2022, 10:14 AM   #46
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So, I made parallel reservations near the Grand Tetons as an alternative to my stay at the West Yellowstone the 2nd week in August.

I went to modify my West Yellowstone KOA reservation, cutting it back from 4 nights to 1 night as I still need an overnight there on my way to GNP - and the West Yellowstone KOA is saying the campground is fully open and they are "hoping" the park (assuming the West Gate) will re-open 6/20.

Clearly, the parks northern areas are a disaster, just wondering how much of the park will truly be closed.



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Same. West Yellowstone KOA told me the West entrance could be open as early as this weekend. I'm not expecting it but will be pleasantly surprised if it is open when we are there.

A few other things we plan to explore near West Yellowstone are:
  • Earthquake Lake Visitor Center
  • Upper & Lower Mesa Falls & Scenic Byway
  • Grizzly & Wolf Discovery Center
  • Wild West Yellowstone Rodeo

Just some ideas to help others pivot plans.
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Same. West Yellowstone KOA told me the West entrance could be open as early as this weekend. I'm not expecting it but will be pleasantly surprised if it is open when we are there.



A few other things we plan to explore near West Yellowstone are:
  • Earthquake Lake Visitor Center
  • Upper & Lower Mesa Falls & Scenic Byway
  • Grizzly & Wolf Discovery Center
  • Wild West Yellowstone Rodeo



Just some ideas to help others pivot plans.
Good ideas.

You know, I made my alternate plans and am still undecided which to keep, but the Grand Tetons and national forest areas are attractive to me. Plus, was at Yellowstone last year and never been to the Tetons - might split the difference of 5 nights between them! I know it's not enough time for either, but...

Thinking

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I wonder if any of the delicate thermal features have been damaged or destroyed. Roads can be rebuilt, those are irreplaceable.
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Old 06-16-2022, 12:07 PM   #49
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I wonder if any of the delicate thermal features have been damaged or destroyed. Roads can be rebuilt, those are irreplaceable.
if anything did happen to any thermals it would be natural evolution of the thermals and the Yellowstone area .
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The north entrance mammoth and road to gradneir will be closed for a long time . the other entrances are scheduled to reopen 6/20 from the last up-date i heard . this flooding and slides were mostly in the northern part of the park and the rest will be open very soon .
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The north entrance mammoth and road to gradneir will be closed for a long time . the other entrances are scheduled to reopen 6/20 from the last up-date i heard . this flooding and slides were mostly in the northern part of the park and the rest will be open very soon .
Got it, agree, although I am an optimist up to the point of disappointment, then I go into a short depression.

Took out my Yellowstone map this morning and an opening of sorts sure seems possible.

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Old 06-16-2022, 03:40 PM   #52
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In the post after yours they posted and attachment from a local news agency. The Park Superintendent stated the park will likely be closed for the rest of this season.


Im going to take him at his word, bite the bullet, and go somewhere else. This trip was a replacement for the same trip planned for summer 2019. Im just SNAKE BIT for this trip!
That's not what he said . he stated the northern mammoth hot springs gardiner and Roosevelt areas will be closed for the remainder of the season and beyond . not the southern half and most of the main loop if not all the main loop will open and last i heard Monday the 20th the other entrances are scheduled to open
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Thanks D W. Agree on the effort. Will see what the plan is to fix. In the meantime will develop alternative plans for YNP destintanka.

Won't be in West Yellowstone until 2nd week in August..

But very very late for making changes or reservations. Most of my reservations made December 21 and January this year and pickings were slim.

Worse case as long as KOA is open in West Yellowstone I'll spend my 5 nights there maybe making day trips elsewhere (Tetons?)
I'll be alone for this trip just taking care of me.
Best case YNP is open, maybe restrictions, but who knows. Military can put down temporary bridges for tanks.
Many details for my trip made..
Coming from WI to Rapid City to YNP to GNP and back to WI.

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If you can't go through the park, it's a long way around from that KOA to the Tetons. That said, I would like to spend more time in the Tetons.
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If you can't go through the park, it's a long way around from that KOA to the Tetons. That said, I would like to spend more time in the Tetons.
Yes, that's going to be a factor in my decision.
Now that I've made those alternate Teton plans, my first impression of things to see and do there is very appealing. And I've never been there vs just being at Yellowstone last year.

EDIT: just talked to the ranger station at Moran in Grand Teton NP about route from there to W Yellowstone. Although Yellowstone is closed its feasible with motorhome towing to get to W Yellowstone through the parkway south entrance. Assuming it would be a crawl through the park. Otherwise with Yellowstone closed, I'd need to come up through Idaho , Island Park.
Also, Tetons have high water at this time. No flooding, no closures.

Thanks, still thinking

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Very good information on early damage assessment

https://mountainjournal.org/floods-d...-national-park



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Park to reopen 6/22/22 entry will be based on an even / odd day system from license plates . end in even go on an even day ends odd go an odd day . Also planing on opening road to mammoth and lamar valley area . northern and north eastern entrances will remain closed .
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Park to reopen 6/22/22 entry will be based on an even / odd day system from license plates . end in even go on an even day ends odd go an odd day . Also planing on opening road to mammoth and lamar valley area . northern and north eastern entrances will remain closed .
This is good info MR.M. Do you have a link for the reopening and license plates?

Here is a good link on the Flood Recovery info: https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvis...d-recovery.htm

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https://youtu.be/l6ilS8N9bjg

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Great info all. This helps me greatly in my decision making - hope it helps you all as well.

The license entry system seems to favor me splitting my 5 nights between the Tetons (Dubois / Wind River KOA) and West Yellowstone.

Hopefully by 6/22 or so I can finalize for the 2nd week in August

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Straight from the Yellowstone National Park website:

UPDATE: Yellowstone National Park’s south loop will reopen to the public on June 22

UPDATE: June 18
Yellowstone National Park’s south loop will reopen to the public on June 22
Visitors traveling to park in coming weeks must stay informed about the new interim visitor entry system

At 8 a.m. Wednesday, June 22, Yellowstone National Park will begin allowing visitors to access the south loop of the park. The south loop is accessed from the East (Cody), West (West Yellowstone), and South (Grand Teton/Jackson) entrances. Accessible areas include Madison, Old Faithful, Grant Village, Lake Village, Canyon Village and Norris. As part of reopening planning, park staff have engaged over 1,000 business owners, park partners, commercial operators and residents in surrounding gateway communities to determine how to manage summer visitation while the north loop remains closed due to flood damage.

To balance the demand for visitor access, park resource protection and economic interests of the communities, the park will institute an interim visitor access plan. The interim plan, referred to as the Alternating License Plate System (ALPS), was suggested as a solution by gateway communities during major public engagement with the park this past week. Park managers and partners have agreed this system is the best interim solution to ensuring the south loop does not become overwhelmed by visitors. The National Park Service will actively monitor the license plate system and is concurrently building a new reservation system that will be ready for implementation if needed.

Alternating License Plate System (ALPS)
Public vehicle entry will be allowed based on whether the last numerical digit on a license plate is odd or even.
Entrance will be granted based on odd/even days on the calendar.
Odd-numbered last digits on license plates can enter on odd days of the month.
Even-numbered last digits (including zero) on license plates can enter on even days of the month.
Personalized plates (all letters, for example "YLWSTNE") will fall into the “odd” category for entrance purposes.
Plates with a mix of letters and numbers but that end with a letter (for example "YELL4EVR") will still use the last numerical digit on the plate to determine entrance days.
Entrance station staff will turn away vehicles attempting to enter the park when the odd/even numerical digits do not correspond to the odd/even calendar date for entrance.
Exceptions
Current commercial use operators with active commercial use permits will be permitted to enter regardless of license plate number. This includes commercial tours and stock groups.
Visitors with proof of overnight reservations in the park will be permitted to enter regardless of license plate number. This includes hotels, campgrounds, and backcountry reservations.
Commercial motorcoaches will be permitted to enter regardless of license plate number.
Motorcycle groups may enter on even dates only.
Essential services like mail and deliver, employees and contractors may enter regardless of license plate number.
The interim license plate system will ensure that visitors have access to the park during this period of high demand. Park managers and staff will monitor the license plate system and impacts on resources, infrastructure, operations, and staffing, and may adjust or implement a reservation or timed entry system, if necessary, after three to four weeks.

“Less than six days ago, Yellowstone National Park was hit with devastating floods,” said Superintendent Cam Sholly. “Thanks to the tremendous efforts of our teams and partners, we are prepared to reopen the south loop of Yellowstone. It is impossible to reopen only one loop in the summer without implementing some type of system to manage visitation. My thanks to our gateway partners and others for helping us work out an acceptable temporary solution for the south loop while we continue our efforts to reopen the north loop. As we go through the reopening process, we will monitor the system’s effectiveness and work together to make adjustments that may be necessary. We will also reopen new sections of the park as repairs continue to be made. It is critical for visitors to stay informed about this interim system as we evaluate its effectiveness. They should plan ahead and be patient with us as we are still managing significant recovery while moving into this operational phase.”

OPEN in the south loop as of June 22
Backcountry areas accessible from roads open to the public will be available/restricted for day use only.
Overnight use from trailheads in the south will open July 1.
Visit Camp in Backcountry for details.
Old Faithful, West Thumb, Grant Village, Bridge Bay, Fishing Bridge, Lake Village and Norris visitor services
West Yellowstone Visitor Information Center
Canyon Village Visitor Education Center
CLOSED until further notice in the south loop
Canyon Village Lodges and Cabins
Canyon, Madison, Norris and Lewis Lake campgrounds
Fishing Bridge Visitor Center and Trailside Museum

Visit Operating Hours and Seasons for details about what is OPEN and CLOSED throughout the park.

Yellowstone staff are working to determine what other potential sections of the park may be reopened prior to roads closing Nov. 1. Decisions will depend on extent of damage and the ability of park managers to safely open additional sections as the year progresses. Park managers are evaluating plans to reopen roads connecting Canyon Village, Tower Junction, Mammoth Hot Spring and Norris however this will not happen initially. The park is also working to reconnect Mammoth Hot Springs to Gardiner and Cooke City/Silver Gate as soon as possible with temporary solutions, while long-term reconstruction is planned.

Visitors should continue to monitor the park website and social media for additional updates.
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