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02-10-2013, 01:10 PM
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Mounting motorcycle wheel chocks
We purchased a 386x12 XLR Thunderbolt last year and it has the under bellie covered with a thick plastic/insulation. I want to mount a motorcycle wheel chock so I can start taking the bike with us. Does anyone know exactly what it takes to mount a chock. What is involved in dropping the plastic and insulation and what else is under it that would have to be removed to mount a chock. Or can the chock be installed another way. I have read that some people have not secured the chocks and have done ok. Not so sure I like that idea. Any help on this would be great.
Thanks,
Jim
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02-10-2013, 06:32 PM
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My XLR 35x12 has 6 5,000 lb tie down points in the garage. I use 4 of them to tie the bike down. I would prefer to install a wheel chock but then again, I don't want it in the way all the time either. When I was researching, I saw some wheel chocks that you just drive your front tire into and the weight of the nose tire holds it down. Then you still have to use tie downs of course. But be sure you get a wheel chock sized for your bike's tire. The wrong size may hit your brake discs or worse.
I use these quicklinks to make sure my tie downs don't fall off during bumps in the road. That way I don't over-rachet the bike down and do damage to the suspension.
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02-10-2013, 07:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danno2u
My XLR 35x12 has 6 5,000 lb tie down points in the garage. I use 4 of them to tie the bike down. I would prefer to install a wheel chock but then again, I don't want it in the way all the time either. When I was researching, I saw some wheel chocks that you just drive your front tire into and the weight of the nose tire holds it down. Then you still have to use tie downs of course. But be sure you get a wheel chock sized for your bike's tire. The wrong size may hit your brake discs or worse.
I use these quicklinks to make sure my tie downs don't fall off during bumps in the road. That way I don't over-rachet the bike down and do damage to the suspension.
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Thanks, I've been looking at a couple different chocks that seem to look like the 1 you are discribing and also gives the option of mounting them as well. That may be the route I go. I have a flush mount chock already from my last toy hauler and was looking to see if anyone knows what it would take to put it in. We will see.
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02-10-2013, 08:15 PM
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[QUOTE=danno2u;304805]My XLR 35x12 has 6 5,000 lb tie down points in the garage. I use 4 of them to tie the bike down. I would prefer to install a wheel chock but then again, I don't want it in the way all the time either. When I was researching, I saw some wheel chocks that you just drive your front tire into and the weight of the nose tire holds it down. Then you still have to use tie downs of course. But be sure you get a wheel chock sized for your bike's tire. The wrong size may hit your brake discs or worse.
I use these quicklinks to make sure my tie downs don't fall off during bumps in the road. That way I don't over-rachet the bike down and do damage to the suspension.
How do u attach those, do you have any pics? That is a good idea
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02-10-2013, 09:39 PM
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"Kuryakyn Products" , "EZ Chock" is a wheel chock that uses tie down straps to hold it in place. It will not hold the motorcycle upright by it's self, but no mounting hardware is required. Another opition is to use a chock that holds the bike upright and use tie downs hooked to the chock to keep it from moving.
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02-10-2013, 10:14 PM
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Look at a Condor mount. Easy to install, removable and when you drive the front tire into the mount it will support the bike while you strap it down. I used one for my Goldwing for several years.
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02-11-2013, 05:12 AM
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Thanks to everyone. I like the easy chock idea. But if I decide to hard mount the base for the chock I have does anyone know whats involved to pull off the underbellie plastic/insulation and what is under it that would need to be removed to install the nuts.
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02-11-2013, 09:44 AM
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[QUOTE=10x;304901]
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Originally Posted by danno2u
I use these quicklinks to make sure my tie downs don't fall off during bumps in the road. That way I don't over-rachet the bike down and do damage to the suspension.
How do u attach those, do you have any pics? That is a good idea
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Here are some pics. The quicklinks are 3,200 pound from Lowes (about $4 each). A tie down is only as good as its weakest link!
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02-11-2013, 02:49 PM
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The quick links are a good idea. I have not used them to tie the bikes in the tt, but we do use them when a bike is on the dyno. Nothing like having a tie down come loose on the dyno and the bike rolls forward off the drum .
I guess I dont use them in the tt because my tie down straps have a security latch on the hooks.
The Condor style chock would be a good choice as long as the motorcycle was tied down four ways in an X pattern.
I have no experience with the under belly panels, but I'm sure I just read something about that in a recent thread.
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02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
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Question, Do you still have to bolt down a chock like a condor? Wont the rubber floor keep the chock from moving.
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02-11-2013, 08:56 PM
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We used unmounted condor chocks in our toy hauler for the first year. We did a 4 point tie down. My wife's BMW was fine and never moved. My 760 lb. Honda ST 1100 kept shifting and tipping. On our model the 100 gallon fresh water tank was where we wanted to mount our tie down plates. We paid an independent RV tech approximately $240 to mount the Condor tie down plates. He had to drop the tank to do it. The chocks secured do a much better job securing the bikes. Since it depends on the bike, you might want to do a test run to see how unsecured chocks work for you before doing anything else.
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02-11-2013, 09:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Linnemj
We used unmounted condor chocks in our toy hauler for the first year. We did a 4 point tie down. My wife's BMW was fine and never moved. My 760 lb. Honda ST 1100 kept shifting and tipping. On our model the 100 gallon fresh water tank was where we wanted to mount our tie down plates. We paid an independent RV tech approximately $240 to mount the Condor tie down plates. He had to drop the tank to do it. The chocks secured do a much better job securing the bikes. Since it depends on the bike, you might want to do a test run to see how unsecured chocks work for you before doing anything else.
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Couldn't you have used lag bolts screwed into the plywood floor? The factory hold down plates of the trailer are screwed down, not bolted thru with nuts.
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02-11-2013, 10:07 PM
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10x The factory uses a self tapping screw to mount the tie down hook plates. They are screwed throught the tie down hook plate, plywood and a metal plate that is welded to the frame cross members. I have not tried it, but yes you could just use a large wood screw or lag to hold it. However I don't think they would hold very well over time, if you were removing them frequenty to take the chocks out. There is an inital strong forward force when putting the motorcycle into a chock that has a cam over rear pivot like a condor. I am a big guy and even sitting on the floor with my feet against a cam over chock the force of the motorcycle will sometimes push me backwards. Maybe the rubber floor covering in the toy hauler would help some.
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02-11-2013, 10:13 PM
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We added a metal plate under the plywood floor so we had metal plates below and above the floor. This helps insure force is distributed across a larger area. Better to be safe since there is a lot of weight you're securing.
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02-11-2013, 10:19 PM
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Linnemj, is right. I'd rather over engineer it then find a bike had come loose. Damage is not cheap to repair, motorcycle or tt.
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02-11-2013, 10:31 PM
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Thanks guys, this why we have this forum. The advice here is awesome, I have learned so much.
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02-16-2013, 12:20 PM
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Thanks everyone. I got some really good info. I'll try a couple different things recommended. 1 thing if anyone has the answer. My RV has the under bellie covered with a heavy plastic/insulation. Has anyone ever removed it and reinstalled it. Is it hard to do?
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02-16-2013, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danno2u
My XLR 35x12 has 6 5,000 lb tie down points in the garage. I use 4 of them to tie the bike down. I would prefer to install a wheel chock but then again, I don't want it in the way all the time either. When I was researching, I saw some wheel chocks that you just drive your front tire into and the weight of the nose tire holds it down. Then you still have to use tie downs of course. But be sure you get a wheel chock sized for your bike's tire. The wrong size may hit your brake discs or worse.
I use these quicklinks to make sure my tie downs don't fall off during bumps in the road. That way I don't over-rachet the bike down and do damage to the suspension.
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Love this idea!!!
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02-18-2013, 04:20 PM
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I use 2 of these with the trailer mounting bracked bolted to the floor.
Pit Stop / Trailer Stop
When not in use I use them in the gargae at home. allows you to drive into it and leave the bike upright in the garage.
Marty
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02-18-2013, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carrierguy
I use 2 of these with the trailer mounting bracked bolted to the floor.
Pit Stop / Trailer Stop
When not in use I use them in the gargae at home. allows you to drive into it and leave the bike upright in the garage.
Marty
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I am leaning toward the condors too.
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