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Old 06-08-2018, 09:31 AM   #1
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New tires and a heavy tongue

I'm selling my 29HFS, if I can find the right buyer. But, in the meantime I want to use it. One thing that I have wanted to do is to upgrade the wheel and tires to 235/80-16 LR-E. These are about 2.8" taller, which reduced tire to tire clearance from 5 down to slightly over 2 inches. Is this too close? I don't think so, but would like opinions. The other tighter clearances should not be an issue. Tire weight ratings goes from 2540# to 3500#. I'm looking at a 3200# rated wheel, but still the gain in load is 600# per tire. The date code on my D rated Westlakes is 38th week of 2013... sounds like time to me.

Second question / thought. A gentleman with a 2015, 1500 Chevy 5.3L with towing options (9100 rated) is looking at the trailer. I cautioned him about being happy with the towing experience. My trailer has a GVWR of 9970# and a heavy tongue since I mounted a battery box with 4 GC-2s on the tongue. But, this could be dropped by 130# by taking out two batteries and still be okay. I have never ran batteries below 70%. TW is now 1260#.. would be 1130#. A new 29HFS is 1032#.

I have toyed with the idea of moving the batteries and inverter (and all the other electrical hardware / wiring / solar charger) to the pantry cabinet which just north of the front tandem. Very near the utility entrance / EMS, etc. That would result in less weight and shorter wire runs. But, that is a lot of work. First, there is the issue of venting or going AGM or Lifepo4. Battle Born 12volt 100ah are about $940 each... three would be nice, thank you! The minimum would be to buy another heavy duty AGM... I have one already. I think the Magnum (MS-2012) and Trimetric chargers can be changed to handle Li, but spending that kind of money seems nuts. I don't need all the pantry volume, so that isn't an issue. Ideas? Suggestions? Want to help?
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:51 AM   #2
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My old camper came from the factory with < 2" of space between the tires.

Watch the space above the tires.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:55 AM   #3
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If you're getting rid of it, I wouldn't bother with any any upgrades. You won't recoup the cost. Tires though sound like a necessity if they've aged out. Again, I wouldn't be doing anything fancy if you're getting rid of it.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:09 AM   #4
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Agree with Kaadk above. The tires are a safety/necessity issue. However, you may be trying to change or improve things for the next owner that the next owner might want to do differently.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:38 AM   #5
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I just swapped out my Westlake tires for Goodyear Endurance tires rated approximately 300 pounds more but at 80psi instead of 65. They also have a speed rating of 84 MPH but I still usually drive around 65 (retired and in no hurry!). Mine were week 48 of 2014 and a year old when I picked up the camper. I thought about going with 16 inch wheels and a higher rated tire but I will try the Goodyear tires first and see how they perform.


On the towing with a Chevy 1500 I towed mine one time with a Ram 1500 rated at 10,000 pounds and with two motorcycles in the back it was a nightmare even after getting the WDH correct. Without the motorcycles no problem. Traded for a F250 diesel and will never go back.
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I've never had a problem with my 29HFS s tongue weight being too heavy.
As long as I have my two Harleys (Electra Glide and a Heritage softail) in the back.
By my weighing I lose about 450lbs TW when loaded.
I need to add cargo to the front of the TT to get my 10 to 15% numbers.
Also I would never ever tow mine with a half ton. And yes I use an "Equalizer" 4pt hitch with 1200 lb bars..
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I've never had a problem with my 29HFS s tongue weight being too heavy.
As long as I have my two Harleys (Electra Glide and a Heritage softail) in the back.
By my weighing I lose about 450lbs TW when loaded.
I need to add cargo to the front of the TT to get my 10 to 15% numbers.
Also I would never ever tow mine with a half ton. And yes I use an "Equalizer" 4pt hitch with 1200 lb bars..

I usually have at least 1/2 tank of fresh water to get the TW to an acceptable level. Without motorcycles that is not necessary. Fully loaded my TT weight is right at 9,500 and the combined weight is 19,200 lbs. BTW I use a Reese Dual Cam with 1200 lb bars and that has been a perfect setup for me.
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Old 06-09-2018, 10:22 AM   #8
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QUOTE=I'm selling my 29HFS, if I can find the right buyer. But,

If you are seling, you may create an issue changing tires and wheels with a clearance loss for a potential buyer. I am a fan of the trailer, where are you located?
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Old 06-09-2018, 11:01 AM   #9
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Why not just go to an e load rated tire at 2830# that's 11320 total and the most we can carry in the 29 is around 9800 , no need for new rims . also no real need to move the batteries since when you have the garage with toys in it it does off set the tongue wt. I carry 4 class 24 batteries up front and 2 30# propane tanks . no issues in fact the TH tows great
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Old 06-09-2018, 04:31 PM   #10
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Tire Clearance

I upgraded my tires on my ROO to load range D a couple of years ago, and had the same issue. I found nothing that says it is a problem, and so far it hasn't been. I have about 2" between them. If you're buying tires, make sure you get M Speed rating or better. I bought mine a eTrailer, and am very happy.
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Old 06-09-2018, 04:52 PM   #11
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new tires

If you are looking for 5 - 235-80/16 LR-E with wheels, I have them. They are mounted and balanced on 3500# wheels.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:45 AM   #12
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Thanks everyone for your help.

After measuring 3 times, I ordered E load rated on 16" rims from eTrailer. I am not afraid of Westlakes, especially with 3500# rating and L speed *wheel are 3200#.

I went ahead with the battery (and Inverter) relocate, since if it doesn't sell by mid July, I'm on the road again. From experience, the heavier the tongue even with this F250, the more bumps are felt.

I will have to buy at least one new 12v AGM to pull this off, since obviously battery fumes in the living room aren't cool.

The only puzzle to solve is the cabinet face that I blew out; how to cover the now large hole in the pantry cabinet. Lots of design ideas in my head.

Leaving the tongue box in place lets me either move my LP tanks into it, or be able to carry the little Honda genny in a safe place. Lockable, but won't lock it with LP tanks in there.

You know, I really not wanting to sell.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:59 AM   #13
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WW,
Personally, I hope you dont sell but I understand your reasons. Will just miss your your great mods and knowledge.
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