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Old 11-30-2015, 08:16 AM   #41
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I'd go with a F250 or 350 or a ram 2500 or 3500 with an 8 foot box,i'd stay away from government motors....
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:28 AM   #42
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H, I don't understand why a one ton would need air bags to tow your trailer. Tongue weight was maybe 1200# without the bike loaded (around 1000# with it... wild guesses) That much weight should squat a one ton only slightly. It drops my little 2500 only about 2 inches. And the WDH gets all that back. All I see in the photo is a hitch with the ball height too low, an easy fix. For your test pull, did you have WDH setup... a trailer over 5000#it is required.

My limit (with the Ram 2500) is determined by the hitch and the ball. The factory states max trailer weight is 12000# conventional with a tongue weight of 1200#. Your truck might be more? Make sure the ball is rated for this, as well. I saw a Work and Play on the road when the light duty hitch snapped.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:33 AM   #43
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I have the 3500 dually and this is the absolute best truck I have ever had, so I know exactly how you feel.
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Old 11-30-2015, 11:29 AM   #44
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Here are the corrected numbers: I picked up the truck in Idaho. I drove to San Diego via Yellowstone and Teton National Parks. Total distance was 1740 miles. I was not towing anything and the only load was two people, light luggage and a 5th wheel hitch. For the 1740 miles my overall average gas mileage was 21.5 miles per gallon of #2 Diesel fuel.

On my first outing towing my trailer I drove 400 miles and got 13.3 miles per gallon. As I said, I'm new at towing a 5th wheel trailer. The performance of the truck is much better than what I expected. The photo below was taken when I pulled into my driveway when picked up the truck. IMHO, that's pretty good performance for a Crew Cab Ram 3500 Diesel HD Truck. I love that truck.

Guess it's possible.
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:12 PM   #45
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Just go with the 3500 gas and you will have no worries. For a couple hundred more than the 2500, it is well worth it. Forget about the diesel and get the gas. Don't succumb to the pressure here. Gas is great and you will be happy with it.

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Old 11-30-2015, 12:25 PM   #46
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These gas versus diesels/1/2 ton versus 3/4 open up a can o' worms as you can see. My take is you wont find many diesel owners wishing they would have went with gas yet many owners of gas wish they would have or already went to diesel.
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Old 11-30-2015, 01:00 PM   #47
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I can get an F-150, Super Crew, XLT, 5.6 Bed, with Chrome package and Class IV hitch and a bunch of other goodies for around $35k

2016 Ford F-150 XLT: Customize & Price | Edmunds

A 2500 HD with the Isuzu Diesel is gonna run you $50k or better

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/sil...acy=true#step1

To me anyway, $15k is a lot of money.

A lot.

You gotta determine if it is absolutely necessary IMHO or if it's just some guys being Cadillac Cowboys

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Okay, Edmunds screwed me up. Looks like the F-150 is around $39k.

Still, $10k is a bunch of money
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:52 PM   #48
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at least a 3/4 ton, but in my opinion, just skip that and get a single rear wheel 1 ton. Virtually same price and handles much more weight
Checking the GMC Ordering guide trailering specs the 3/4 ton std bed 4wd crew cab with the duramax will tow 17100 5th wheel and with the gas engine 14000.

The 1ton 4wd crew cab std bed (Single rear wheel) with the duramax will also tow 17100 5th wheel and 13900 with the gas engine.

Not a whole lot of difference. The only reason to go 1ton is to go dually which will give you 22600 with the duramax and 13300 with the gas engine. Less towing capacity with the dually gas engine combination.

Just setting a few facts out there.

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Old 11-30-2015, 04:52 PM   #49
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First off lets get the gorilla out of the room (brand does not matter) as people are "very loyal" to the brand they will suggest. So next issue is weight the coach you own right now is just under 10,000# GVW so you will need the biggest 1500 you can but to make this work!
So the item is since you claim you are new to this most people keep the coach they own right now for maybe 3 to 4 years, then they get something else, might be bigger (Family things, toys change etc so just to give yourself a small window of safety you should get a 2500 truck, if there is the SMALLEST idea that you might upgrade to a larger coach you have to get a 3500 series truck.
SO you need to sit down and think real hard "what am I going to do in a year or two or three with rving with the toys you have, how much traveling you will be doing" and then that will steer you to the correct truck.
Now the question I need to ask, you did not say what series the suburban is, and why you do not feel comfortable using it?
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Old 11-30-2015, 05:46 PM   #50
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First off lets get the gorilla out of the room (brand does not matter) as people are "very loyal" to the brand they will suggest.

I would point out brand does matter which is why the OP titled this thread "Which one to go with CHEVY 1500 or 2500 HD"

When I read that, I assume the OP is looking at Chevy's and not a Ford, a Ram, a Toyota or an M1 Abrams tank. But everyone and their sister in law instantly recommended everything the OP apparently wasnt interesed in?

The title of the thread is not "which one to go with a chevy or ford or dodge or nissan 2500 or 3500 or dually or single rear wheel or diesel or M1".......is it?
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:21 PM   #51
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At or about 0.6 MPG I would not suggest an M1, a Stryker with a top speed just north of 60MPH and about 5.5 MPG @ 4.9 million a copy is a great bargain...

It also comes in a variety of choice colors.........
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:10 PM   #52
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Mr Havercamp. Most of the posts were from someone that said they have a Ford/Dodge/Ram 3/4 ton and it is fine. The emphasis being on the 3/4 ton not the model to buy.
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:13 PM   #53
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:58 PM   #54
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Mr Havercamp you are right I am a Chevy person I am not a fan of Fords and Dodges I personally don't like the look of these truck. I think that the Chevy 2500hd is a better built truck. And I am not a fan of a diesel. Like I said our plans for the camper right now is to just do short trips in and around Nebraska and maybe into Colorado and Iowa so I don't think I need a diesel. But I do thank everyone for all the feedback and this is a great forum
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:00 PM   #56
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All you diesel guys - just brace your self for the $3000-4000 exhaust /DPF cleaning BS. I just went through this on my 08 2500 CD 6.7. Today's diesels are not the same as the the old 7.3's - the emissions crap will kill them sooner than you think ( pull your EGR off and look at the soot that is getting pumped back through your intake if you don't believe me ) and will utimately cost you a bunch $ to temp fix..just saying.. I own my last diesel.. will be gas here on out..
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:53 PM   #57
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TX You had an 08 that required DEF?
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No - in 2008 they introduced the 6.7 CD with all the emissions crap but did not put the DEF on until 2009 I believe. Either way I'd rather have an old school pre-emission diesel.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:05 PM   #59
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Mr Havercamp you are right I am a Chevy person I am not a fan of Fords and Dodges I personally don't like the look of these truck. I think that the Chevy 2500hd is a better built truck. And I am not a fan of a diesel. Like I said our plans for the camper right now is to just do short trips in and around Nebraska and maybe into Colorado and Iowa so I don't think I need a diesel. But I do thank everyone for all the feedback and this is a great forum
If that is the case i would still go with the 3/4 2500 6.0 chevy. You will still run into some hills that the 2500 is better to handle. When not towing I still get 18 to 19mpg with the 4.10 gear. It's the only gear ratio available with the gas 2500.
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Consider the future needs also. The resale of a 3/4T diesel far exceeds the resale of a 3/4T gas as does the tow rating and pulling stress on the driver. I went with a dually 4x4 for the rating and the match to the size and weights of my 5th wheel. I towed for 45 days with a 3/4T diesel and actually had no issues but the difference in ride quality and stability with the 1T dually has made it worth every penny. I will never own another tow vehicle without air bags. They improved the ride even more.
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