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Old 10-12-2018, 12:06 PM   #1
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Winterizing... Cold snap coming!

We've got temps forecasted to get down to about 33F on Monday here... too close for comfort for me, so I just did a quick winterizing on our Avenger. Let me know if I missed anything, if you don't mind...

Drained the FW tank
  • Drained the water heater tank and put it into Bypass
  • Hooked up air pressure to city water inlet
  • Drained kitchen sink Cold and Hot sides until they blew air
  • Drained bathroom sink Cold and Hot sides until they blew air
  • Drained Shower Cold and Hot sides until they blew air
  • Drained Toilet until it blew air
  • Drained Outdoor Kitchen sink Cold and Hot until it blew air
  • Drained Outdoor Shower Cold and Hot until it blew air
  • Drained Low Point Drains Cold and Hot until they blew air
  • Took blow gun and purged the FW supply line between FW tank and Water Pump (Opened the valve for the Antifreeze pickup, and blew air into it thereby purging the water from that line--- this supply line exits the FW tank UNDER the tank, so I see no other way of purging this line to keep it from freezing...)
I did not fill the lines with "Pink Stuff" since we are taking it back out again in a week... from what I have read blowing the lines out with air is adequate, and we've only got 2 nights of "near freezing" forecast.



Poured The Pink Stuff into:


  • Kitchen Sink Drain
  • Bathroom Sink Drain
  • Shower Drain
  • Toilet
  • Outdoor Kitchen Sink
Then I drained the Grey and Black tanks and made sure they did not have water in them.



We've got one more camping weekend planned, and then I think I'll do the final winterizing for the winter, including filling the plumbing system with Pink.


Did I miss anything? It was really easy to do, and took only about 30 minutes.


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We've got temps forecasted to get down to about 33F on Monday here... too close for comfort for me, so I just did a quick winterizing on our Avenger. Let me know if I missed anything, if you don't mind...


  • Drained the water heater tank and put it into Bypass
  • Hooked up air pressure to city water inlet
  • Drained kitchen sink Cold and Hot sides until they blew air
  • Drained bathroom sink Cold and Hot sides until they blew air
  • Drained Shower Cold and Hot sides until they blew air
  • Drained Toilet until it blew air
  • Drained Outdoor Kitchen sink Cold and Hot until it blew air
  • Drained Outdoor Shower Cold and Hot until it blew air
  • Drained Low Point Drains Cold and Hot until they blew air
I did not fill the lines with "Pink Stuff" since we are taking it back out again in a week... from what I have read blowing the lines out with air is adequate, and we've only got 2 nights of "near freezing" forecast.



Poured The Pink Stuff into:


  • Kitchen Sink Drain
  • Bathroom Sink Drain
  • Shower Drain
  • Toilet
  • Outdoor Kitchen Sink
Then I drained the Grey and Black tanks and made sure they did not have water in them.



We've got one more camping weekend planned, and then I think I'll do the final winterizing for the winter, including filling the plumbing system with Pink.


Did I miss anything? It was really easy to do, and took only about 30 minutes.





That should be sufficient for some brief sub-freezing temps. Anything longer, you should really pump in the pink stuff.


Don't forget to get the water out of the line that runs from your FW tank to the pump.
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Old 10-12-2018, 12:21 PM   #3
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I think I was editing while you were posting


I purged the supply line going from the FW tank to the pump by opening the antifreeze pickup valve and taking a blow gun, and putting air to the antifreeze pickup line. That should have purged that line, and I think there was also air going through the pump as well, I could see air flowing through the supply line screen filter that is attached to the pump.
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If you have black tank flush, maybe just blow air to clear water in it.....
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We've been at our camper since Tuesday. Nighttime temps have been down to 28* and 30* on 2 nights with daytime temps around 39* to 46*. Windchill yesterday was 32* to 36*. I don't know how long the temperature was below freezing but I didn't drain the supply hose and it has been fine. The campground closes for the season on Sunday. I wouldn't worry about 2 or 3 hours at 32*.
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These posts about low temps got me worried so I bought an indoor/outdoor wireless temp guage ($12) with hi low readings and placed the outside one near the water pump. That way I can truly determine what is happening.



Turns out the temp is holding at least 10 degrees above the outside temp so no worries. I recommend doing the same if you are worried.
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This subject keeps coming up and there are two schools of thought. You have the blow it out people and the antifreeze people. I just blow mine out and put antifreeze in traps. If there is no water in the lines after blowing them out there is nothing to freeze. I guess its just a preference thing. Good luck and safe travels to all.
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One of our camping neighbors said he puts vegetable oil in the toilet to keep the toilet seal from sticking. Does anyone else do that?
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Did you turned Off the electric element of the Water Heater?

To be sure...
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Did you turned Off the electric element of the Water Heater?

To be sure...
My water heater is gas only... no worries there.
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This subject keeps coming up and there are two schools of thought. You have the blow it out people and the antifreeze people. I just blow mine out and put antifreeze in traps. If there is no water in the lines after blowing them out there is nothing to freeze. I guess its just a preference thing. Good luck and safe travels to all.


Blowing out the lines does not get the water out of your water pump.
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Dont know if you have a filter but you should drain that if you do and unscrew it.

You meed to remove the filter/screen from the pump. They look like this.Click image for larger version

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That should be sufficient for some brief sub-freezing temps. Anything longer, you should really pump in the pink stuff.


Don't forget to get the water out of the line that runs from your FW tank to the pump.
I doubt water lines would freeze @ brief 33 !!!
But always better to be safe,,, could probably get by with running a couple gallons of Antifreeze thru the sys with the water pump ???
But if you use the FW,,, you would have to do a good flush,,, before refilling !!!
32 here this AM,,, light frost !!!
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I doubt water lines would freeze @ brief 33 !!!

But always better to be safe,,, could probably get by with running a couple gallons of Antifreeze thru the sys with the water pump ???

But if you use the FW,,, you would have to do a good flush,,, before refilling !!!

32 here this AM,,, light frost !!!



I would avoid putting AF in your FW tank. You may never fully get the taste out. What I do is open both valves on my winterization kit and blow into the hose that is used to suck AF out of the bottle. This will blow any water still in the hose back into the FW tank.
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We are supposed to have our first frost around 1:00 AM. 29F, then warmer the rest of the week. We are going to do our last few days of camping, starting tomorrow. So no antifreeze yet. I drained the water heater and blew out the water lines. I'm going to leave the furnace on overnight, set at 50. Lower cabinet doors open (where water lines are) and pump and water heater access panels removed. Faucets and low point drains are open and pump is off.

I think I should be OK. Fingers crossed! I will certainly let everyone know if I have a problem when we make camp.
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You will be fine for the forecast temps. I would use antifreeze for long term as your method left water in the water pump and filter. Air only works if there are no hidden low spots in the water system. Most of the water can be removed from lines via air, however any remaining water will pool in low spots. In very cold areas it is not worth the risk for a few dollars and an hour labor.
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Yes. I will be doing the full winterizing next weekend.
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I would avoid putting AF in your FW tank. You may never fully get the taste out. What I do is open both valves on my winterization kit and blow into the hose that is used to suck AF out of the bottle. This will blow any water still in the hose back into the FW tank.
I do not have a winterizing kit,,, and no room to install one !!!
I have put antifreeze in our fresh water tank for years !!!
Then we sanitize every spring !!!
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I would avoid putting AF in your FW tank. You may never fully get the taste out. What I do is open both valves on my winterization kit and blow into the hose that is used to suck AF out of the bottle. This will blow any water still in the hose back into the FW tank.

That's exactly what I did. I really don't want to put any "Pink Stuff" in my FW tank!!


I also did drain the filter at the pump.
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