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Old 03-04-2016, 06:20 PM   #221
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In which tone should we take this statement? Will it still be safe to bring the kids?


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The fairgrounds are huge and yes, it might be quite a walk to get to some of the activities. But you don’t necessarily have to walk, FROG provides shuttles and golf cart taxis that drive around the fairgrounds all day long. At least they did last year and I would think they would be doing this again this year, and yes, it’s free.

This is my wife hard at work as a FROG volunteer driving one of the many taxis.
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Hey Oakman, we hitched a ride with her (Joie Chitwood) once last year...

Seriously, we brought our bikes last year and USED THEM. We were parked UP in the NE corner which was OK with us as it was far away from the nightly trains and we could almost look over the sprawling fairgrounds from there. (don't know why but, I swear that bike told me I was peddling uphill both ways...) The many shuttles do not run on any schedules. If you see one coming, be ready to jump on or start walking and another will come along.

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Old 03-04-2016, 07:06 PM   #223
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Not to argue but to clarify there was 3-4 class A's in the NE that had no chance of getting level. We all had more cribbing than was safe to use. We would've had to go to the lumber yard to get enough. It's done and Mike B came through with a new site. All is great and this is not a complaint just feed back. We had a terrific time at the rally and look forward to this year.
I did say we are looking at other options for the larger Class A RVs because with hobo parking we may need to restrict that row to smaller campers.
The NE Supervisor is very familiar with the sites that had the worst problems and has a plan for dealing with it.

Hopefully everyone will still have a safe and great rally again this year.
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I did say we are looking at other options for the larger Class A RVs because with hobo parking we may need to restrict that row to smaller campers.
The NE Supervisor is very familiar with the sites that had the worst problems and has a plan for dealing with it.

Hopefully everyone will still have a safe and great rally again this year.

I agree, when we met the NE supervisor he inquired whether we had enough "blocks" to work with. Being we had "graduated" from a TT to a 5th (with auto leveling) just months before attending the Rally, I still had my extensive collection of planks & blocks. I told him "no problem" we would make it work. He parked us and when all was said and done, I had 2 wheels OFF the ground once level with the auto leveling system!
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Hey Oakman, we hitched a ride with her (Joie Chitwood) once last year...

I think Turbs taught her how to corner on two wheels.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:30 PM   #226
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I agree, when we met the NE supervisor he inquired whether we had enough "blocks" to work with. Being we had "graduated" from a TT to a 5th (with auto leveling) just months before attending the Rally, I still had my extensive collection of planks & blocks. I told him "no problem" we would make it work. He parked us and when all was said and done, I had 2 wheels OFF the ground once level with the auto leveling system!
That is a great point. Will talk to Bob about maybe a check block on the registration for autolevel system.
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I think Turbs taught her how to corner on two wheels.

Just wait till I show her the one wheel vin number check!


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Old 03-04-2016, 07:41 PM   #228
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That is a great point. Will talk to Bob about maybe a check block on the registration for autolevel system.

A Berkshire with auto level is still limited. It's not a magic system it's just auto level. We can't have the front or rear wheels off the ground. I for one have no desire to prop up a 33000 lb Motorhome. I only mentioned this as a suggestion to avoid the issue we had last year.



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That is a great point. Will talk to Bob about maybe a check block on the registration for autolevel system.

Don't get me wrong....I was OK with it (although my neighbor may have had some reservations..) I did wedge more blocks under the tires just in case (and to make my neighbor RiderBloke feel better)
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A Berkshire with auto level is still limited. It's not a magic system it's just auto level. We can't have the front or rear wheels off the ground. I for one have no desire to prop up a 33000 lb Motorhome. I only mentioned this as a suggestion to avoid the issue we had last year.
To expand on what Phil is saying it is not safe to have the wheels of a 30000lb motorhome off the ground or a large fifth wheel for that matter even if the auto level system will do it. The manual even says it is not safe. Hopefully this will be taken into consideration this year.

I will add that the volunteers did a great job last year. It is not easy to park 800 rigs in such a short period of time and my hat is off to them and Frog Bob for all their hard work.
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Exactly! That is mild compared to what we would have had to do last year. That will do so much damage to the front suspension. I've seen it done but you will never see mine like that.



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Another type of shuttle is a larger tractor pulling a wagon for more people to get on at one time to be taken to dinner. See the attached photo. Sue and I hope to see everyone in August. I am recovering from hip replacement surgery (1 week home now) but plan to be walking well by August.
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Another type of shuttle is a larger tractor pulling a wagon for more people to get on at one time to be taken to dinner. See the attached photo. Sue and I hope to see everyone in August. I am recovering from hip replacement surgery (1 week home now) but plan to be walking well by August.

Sorry to hear you had surgery but I am sure you will be good as new quickly! Keep up the exercises!
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I want to chime in a little bit on parking, although Herk has been doing an outstanding job of explaining items.

To help you get oriented, this photo is looking to the west/southwest.

Because of the huge expansion of the FROG Rally, we had to park quite a few units in the northeast area of the fairgrounds (north of the horse racing track, or in the lower right in this photo) where there is a hill. The rest of the areas on the fairgrounds are almost completely flat.

The large building at the top of the photo, just right of center, is where we have meals. The two buildings just to the right of that are where the vendors will be located. Immediately east of the vendor buildings (below them in the photo) is a park area where we'll have some outdoor concerts, weather permitting, and just south of that (to the left in the photo) in the trees is another grassy area where the new RV display is focused.

Most of the seminars take place in the two rows of pavilions just east of the concert area and the RV displays (below them in the photo).

The grey-roofed building shaped like a "T" is where the service center will be located. Most of the large buildings adjacent to it are animal barns and arenas that won't be open to the members, but will be used for parts, service tech and golf cart parking, and other service-related functions.

The only disagreement that I have with anything that Herk said is his assessment of the number of "souvenirs" that you might encounter. (Herk's view might be clouded by the fact that he's been in charge of parking in the center of the horse track for the last two rallies.) The county fair (not a rodeo) will have been in about a week and a half before us, and most of the grounds will have been used for midways, food concessions, shows, parking, camping, and other people-related activities, so on 95% of the grounds there's no cause for concern. Of course, there's always a risk right at the barns (the infamous "muck pile").

I've asked the fairgrounds to restrict early arrivals to start on Wednesday, unless I ask you to come earlier as part of the parking team or your division arranges for you to come earlier in connection with service. If you arrive early, the fairgrounds staff does not assign you a site. We'll get a list of early arrivals and assign sites to try to minimize the need to move anyone. Since there's an extra week this year between the fair and our arrival, there should be time for the fairgrounds staff to have all of the electric and water service in place to avoid having as many moves as there were last year.

NEITHER EARLY REGISTRATION NOR EARLY ARRIVAL GUARANTEES A FULL HOOKUP SITE, so we'll get that issue out of the way now.

IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL SITUATION THAT REQUIRES A SEWER HOOKUP, please let me know when you register so that we can try to accommodate that need. I'm aware of a few of those -- three that come to mind immediately. If your issue is just limited walking, we'll work to get you in close to most of the activities, but you won't necessarily have a sewer site.

As has already been mentioned, between the tractor and wagon shuttles and the golf cart taxis, we can get you any place you need to go if distance is an issue. Most of the grounds are flat, and most of the streets among the buildings are paved, so if you want to bring a scooter or a bike, you're welcome to do so.

If you want to park with someone, please let us know in advance and make arrangements to arrive together. Parking areas are assigned in advance and are parked on a "hobo parking" system -- you get the next available site in that area -- and trying to make and record changes at the arrival table with ten units behind you is not fun. Keep in mind that we not only have to park you, but we have to keep a record of where you are so that you can be located by the service teams as well as in the very rare case of emergency.

We understand better than we did last year the steepness of the northeast area and the issue of leveling there, especially with automatic leveling systems, and will endeavor to keep that in mind as we assign sites.

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Rodeo ... Fair ... I plead city guy.

Horse poo was a small issue for some in the track infield but was not excessive by any means.

Welcome back Bob!
Been trying to cover the fort in your absence and doing a poor job it seems
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Rodeo ... Fair ... I plead city guy.

Horse poo was a small issue for some in the track infield but was not excessive by any means.

Welcome back Bob!
Been trying to cover the fort in your absence and doing a poor job it seems
Lou, I hope that's the biggest thing on which we ever disagree!
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