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Old 03-19-2018, 05:16 PM   #1
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inverter generator help needed

I'm close to picking up my new 2018 rockwood 2304ks. I have some very simple questions about using an inverter generator.
I plan on dry camping in some NJ state parks with no hook ups. I think I want a small generator? Do I simply plug in my power cord from my trailer into the generator ? Will this also charge my batteries while the generator is in use ?
I do not plan on using the AC, so for a long weekend, with 2 adults and 2 batteries, will I need to run 2 small generators in parallel ?
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Old 03-19-2018, 05:33 PM   #2
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For just recharging the batteries and running the microwave, you'll be fine with a 2000w INVERTER generator.
No need to have a second one to parallel unless you want to run the a/c.

We've been dry camping for 12 years now and our Honda 2000i does it all but run the a/c.
I just use a 30 to 20 amp adapter and plug the shore cord into the Honda.

The trailer's converter will recharge the battery just as if you were plugged into shore power.
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:29 AM   #3
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FYI, generator nomenclature for power rating is misleading. A generator that calls itself a 2000 watt generator means it is capable of a surge load of 2000 watts. The real value you need to look at is continuous load. Most of the 2000 watt parallel generators can only put out 1600 watts continuous and less above sea level elevation.

With 1600 watts, you will have about 300 watts left if you use the microwave. This means you should run your fridge and hot water heater on propane the entire time as you won't have sufficient capacity to run more than once at a time.
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The new Honda EU2200i's have 1800 watts sustained for the same price as the discontinued EU2000i's which had 1600 watts sustained.
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Hard to beat the Nothern Tool 2000W inverter

It is 55% of the cost of a Honda, rated quieter, and has a 30 amp plug which means no adapting to the 3 pronged 110 plug. Plus it lasts about 10.5 hours on a tank of gas too.

I do a lot of dry camping at NFS sites in Virginia and find this little guy more than fits the bill. I recharge my CPAP battery with it.
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It is 55% of the cost of a Honda, rated quieter, and has a 30 amp plug which means no adapting to the 3 pronged 110 plug. Plus it lasts about 10.5 hours on a tank of gas too.

I do a lot of dry camping at NFS sites in Virginia and find this little guy more than fits the bill. I recharge my CPAP battery with it.
What is 55% of the cost of a Honda?
You didn't mention what generator you're talking about.
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What is 55% of the cost of a Honda?
You didn't mention what generator you're talking about.
I'm guessing it's the one in his title

Hard to beat the Nothern Tool 2000W inverter
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I'm guessing it's the one in his title

Hard to beat the Nothern Tool 2000W inverter
cavie, where is it mentioned in the title "inverter generator help needed"?
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Here is a link

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...3983_200623983

They often put this on sale for $569.99. Combine that with one of their online coupons which may give you $100 off a $500 purchase (they run those periodically too) and you have a really sweet deal.

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You can get the Champion 2000w inverter generator for less than that.
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The champion is a little cheaper

But only 4 star review on Amazon. Northern is 180+ reviews and 5 star.

Plus the Northern has a 30 amp plug in that needs no 3 prong adapter.

I liked those features better.
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cavie, where is it mentioned in the title "inverter generator help needed"?
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But only 4 star review on Amazon. Northern is 180+ reviews and 5 star.

Plus the Northern has a 30 amp plug in that needs no 3 prong adapter.

I liked those features better.
Pretty compelling. They still put the plug in upside down....
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Yes, just add the 15 amp adapter to the shore power cable and plug into the generator.

Yes it will charge the battery...just like being connected to shore power. The converter built into the camper handles the charging.

At the outlet of your generator, there is virtually no difference between the power offered on a campground pedestal or home outlet for a 15 amp circuit.

Warning: many will tell you that you can sneak by with a 2 KW (2000 watt peak/1600 watt continuous) inverter generator to run your AC. That's nonsense. Here are the specs for an Atwood 13,500 BTU AC. STARTING POWER is 3800 watts. Can you get by with 3500 watts? Sure. Can you get by with 2000? Only in a fantasy world. It might run a few times, but you'll wreck the AC.
This comment may draw some debate, but the manufacturer's specs speak for themselves. And 13,500 BTUs don't change power requirements much from brand to brand. Bigger campers have 15,000 BTU AC units...they need even more power.

If you think you might want AC, you can pair two 2KW generators...and the good news is that you can decide to buy the second one later. If you just know you need the AC fairly often, you might prefer a single generator capable of 3500 watts or so. This avoids the headache of running two engines and maintaining two machines. But a 2 KW generator can be handled with one hand. A 3500 watt generator might weigh in near or above 100 pounds. Decisions, decisions.

Many here love Champions. They have a nice little 2 KW model that runs around $500 or so compared to a Honda/Yamaha at $900 to $1000.

If you boondock a lot, you'll appreciate some distance between you and your generator. A 12/3 AWG x 100' lead cord is up to the job. It will easily deliver the 15 amps your generator delivers over that 100' distance. Next you'll need a good, case-hardened 1/4" chain (or cable lock equivalent) and a couple of top quality padlocks (also case hardened). Case hardening helps prevent sawing. Almost nothing can resist the universal key. Lock your generator to a tree. The two locks give you flexibility and extended distance from the tree. Determined thieves can steal it, but opportunists will pass it by.

Next, get one of these as a tent frame ridge pole, a couple of short bungees to hold the pole in place on the generator handle, and a 40 gallon trash bag (or equivalent and 3 tent stakes to make a rain-resistant cover for the generator. This will also make it less visible. In warm, dry weather, pull one flap back for cooling. The long ridge pole keeps both ends of the generator open for cooling. Use a big rock to hold down the 4th corner that gives access to your pull start. Inverter Generators hate rain, but this will let you run in the rain and disguise your generator. Or you could spend $50 for a purpose built generator "tent".

Last thought. How do you know you have a good generator and not a dud? Easy. Bring it home. Run a heavy extension cord into the kitchen Connect your big over the stove or counter-top microwave. It should be about 1200 watts or so. Your 2 KW generator should run that big microwave with ease. It is a good test device, because the microwave has high startup demands and it continuously draws near the generator's normal capacity (1200 watt microwave vs. 1600 watt continuous generator.)
If the microwave runs well, you're set. If not, bring the generator back for a replacement and test again. Don't take no for an answer on the replacement...some stores say you have to go for warranty repair. Nonsense. Junk out of the box is not a warranty issue. It's a replacement issue.
Pay with a credit card and threaten to refuse payment of they don't exchange. Easy.
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It is 55% of the cost of a Honda, rated quieter, and has a 30 amp plug which means no adapting to the 3 pronged 110 plug. Plus it lasts about 10.5 hours on a tank of gas too.

I do a lot of dry camping at NFS sites in Virginia and find this little guy more than fits the bill. I recharge my CPAP battery with it.
Can you give us a model #. I can't find one with a 30 amp RV receptacle in it.
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Cavie: I put a link to it in a reply

Or go to Northern Tool.com and put in Powerhorse 2000W and you will see it. Right now it is $599 but they put it on sale all the time for $569.

This is the only small generator/inverter that I am aware of which has a 30 amp plug in. I can tell you that comes in very handy and it is just one less thing to have to carry around.

It is very quiet and I have seen some battles over generator noise fought in dry campgrounds. One even where a ranger came in with a decimeter. Given that crowding is happening more and more in campgrounds, quiet is very important.

I can't hear this one 100 feet away. I have never had a complaint.
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Or go to Northern Tool.com and put in Powerhorse 2000W and you will see it. Right now it is $599 but they put it on sale all the time for $569.

This is the only small generator/inverter that I am aware of which has a 30 amp plug in. I can tell you that comes in very handy and it is just one less thing to have to carry around.

It is very quiet and I have seen some battles over generator noise fought in dry campgrounds. One even where a ranger came in with a decimeter. Given that crowding is happening more and more in campgrounds, quiet is very important.

I can't hear this one 100 feet away. I have never had a complaint.
You are correct. That is a 30 amp 120 volt AC TWIST LOK outlet. HOWEVER it is not a 30 amp 120 volt RV outlet and one would have to have an adaptor to plug it into an RV cord. Buyer beware.
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You are correct. That is a 30 amp 120 volt AC TWIST LOK outlet. HOWEVER it is not a 30 amp 120 volt RV outlet and one would have to have an adaptor to plug it into an RV cord. Buyer beware.
Spend another $11 and get an adapter...

30A RV to 30A twist plug

https://www.amazon.com/AC-RVL530TT-G...to+30a+RV+plug
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from the FR green app, there's no pic or generator name in post #5.
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Dan, perhaps it is your browser, but I also see the title he is referring to posted just above the message text.
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