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01-14-2021, 09:19 AM
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Solar on the Side
Anybody know where to buy a portable suitcase solar panel with a built in MPPT controller? It seems like panels with built in controllers are all PWM.
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01-14-2021, 09:36 AM
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Another option is to get the panels without a controller and add whatever controller you want to the camper.
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01-14-2021, 09:45 AM
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That's what I did, bought the panels that I wanted and added my own MPPT for my portable set up.
most solar suitcases it would not be cost efficient for MFG to add MPPT, typically cases are less than 100W overkill for MPPT.
Though you may find them it would b cheaper to make your own kit.
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01-14-2021, 10:39 AM
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Renogy solar. call help desk . they are great on customer service.
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01-14-2021, 11:06 AM
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I also recommend.
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01-14-2021, 11:54 AM
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I'm a big fan of DIY portable solar kits.
A pair of 100 watt panels with MC-4 connectors already installed, an MPPT Controller of your choice, a 10awg extension cord, a connector that fits the pre-installed one on the RV, and a couple of MC-4 connectors for the extension cord.
Add a couple of hinges and suitcase latch if you wish.
As for tilting there are all kinds of "mounts" available from Amazon and other sources for ~$30.
Add it all up and you'll have plenty of $$ left over after building a far better system than you can purchase off the shelf.
I did this with mine and now am able to "harvest" the max output of my 160watt "kit" and with my Victron 75/15 Smart Solar Controller I can use the bluetooth function while aligning the panels. I can actually see how much voltage the panels are producing real time and adjust the position/tilt of the panels for peak.
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01-14-2021, 02:03 PM
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I have a 100 watt suitcase solar panel and two deep cycle batteries I installed a small meter behind the panel so that I can see the the volts and amps that it is putting out.
I figured that the controller that came with the panel was cutting back too much so I unhooked it and just ran it direct to the batteries. My batteries usually need all that they can get. If a person doesn't baby sit the panel constantly you never get the full output. Anyway I have done this for about 5 years now.
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01-14-2021, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tictoc43
I have a 100 watt suitcase solar panel and two deep cycle batteries I installed a small meter behind the panel so that I can see the the volts and amps that it is putting out.
I figured that the controller that came with the panel was cutting back too much so I unhooked it and just ran it direct to the batteries. My batteries usually need all that they can get. If a person doesn't baby sit the panel constantly you never get the full output. Anyway I have done this for about 5 years now.
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Running 100 watts into a couple of deep cycle batteries is OK as long as the batteries aren't approaching full charge. The panel(s) can deliver around 18 volts max if in parallel and well over 30 volts if in series. What keeps the voltage down is the current draw in the battery but this goes away when charge is full and that's when the boiling commences.
As long as you monitor, no problem. I wouldn't leave the panels connected (without a controller) if you plan on being away for any length of time however.
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01-14-2021, 04:24 PM
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I have a 2020 Zamp US 70 suitcase with many features I like: a swing-out easy read controller, a durable carrying case, a stout frame that will resist wind and that can be staked down. I also got a extension cord at the same time which I believe is essential. It is heavy and was a bit pricey. Perhaps Zamp also has a more recent update model?
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01-14-2021, 05:03 PM
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This is all good info and I'm following as I have wanted to add a portable set up for some time. I know now the $$ is coming down a bit so I might make the move soon.
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01-14-2021, 09:41 PM
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01-14-2021, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Foothills
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Sure seems expensive considering two 100 watt panels sell for $100 each, $200 for two.
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01-15-2021, 10:58 AM
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HQST is another solar source.
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01-15-2021, 04:36 PM
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Thanks for all the great input all. I like the suggestion of getting one independent MPPT controller and connecting panels on my own. Then, I'm not paying for a controller for each portable panel.
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01-15-2021, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
I'm a big fan of DIY portable solar kits.
A pair of 100 watt panels with MC-4 connectors already installed, an MPPT Controller of your choice, a 10awg extension cord, a connector that fits the pre-installed one on the RV, and a couple of MC-4 connectors for the extension cord.
Add a couple of hinges and suitcase latch if you wish.
As for tilting there are all kinds of "mounts" available from Amazon and other sources for ~$30.
Add it all up and you'll have plenty of $$ left over after building a far better system than you can purchase off the shelf.
I did this with mine and now am able to "harvest" the max output of my 160watt "kit" and with my Victron 75/15 Smart Solar Controller I can use the bluetooth function while aligning the panels. I can actually see how much voltage the panels are producing real time and adjust the position/tilt of the panels for peak.
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Totally agree! I have 1200w of rigid panels on the roof of mine and purchased 2 flex 100W panels to add on to the existing Outback controller. I bought a small Victron MPPT 75 for when I sleep in my truck (w the flex 100w panels). The price of panels has fallen so much in recents months.
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01-16-2021, 10:37 AM
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I have the Renogy 200 watt suitcase with MPW controller. We do both types of camping, but during the summer months we mostly dry camp in the mountains. Compared to the system I used to use, (Harbor Freight poly panels), this system is awesome. I'm charged by noon on my 4 6 volt golf carts. I am converting to 2 Battleborn Lifepo4 batteries, and we'll see how the solar changes with those, but I'm very happy so far.
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01-16-2021, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Comanchecreek
I am converting to 2 Battleborn Lifepo4 batteries, and we'll see how the solar changes with those, but I'm very happy so far.
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You'll be pleased when you get the Battleborns installed. They'll charge faster than your old Lead/Acid batteries which is great with solar. Depending on depth of discharge you will probably find your batteries charged by early afternoon on a good sunny day.
I've been using a 160watt setup and just yesterday ordered two 100 watt panels to replace it. The 160 watt suitcase unit charged my two Battleborns by 1:00 PM most sunny days. Decided to add the extra 40 watts as the price was too good to pass up. They'll get connected in series and will feed the MPPT controller mounted next to my batteries.
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01-24-2021, 01:49 PM
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01-24-2021, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 01tundra
I built my own using two Renogy Eclipse 100W panels wired in series with a Victron 75/15 SmartSolar MPPT controller mounted inside the trailer.
Picked up the hardware on Amazon and robbed the folding legs from our old 100W suitcase, but you could easily build legs as well.
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For those considering a DIY kit there are some less expensive panels than the Renogy and according to an online "reviewer" the panels are identical electrically to the Renogy units which led him to believe they come from the same factory.
They're 100 watt monocrystalline panels made by HQST and sold on Amazon right now for $159/pair.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
These HQST panels are shorter and wider than the Renogy but have near identical electrical specs with only a few millivolt/milliamp differences. Even the labels seem to use the same font.
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