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Old 01-10-2016, 09:49 AM   #1
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Towing with full water tank

Sorry if there is a thread for this already but I can't seem to find one.

I have just purchased a new Xlite 261 BHXL. After the sale the dealer strongly cautioned about driving with water in the tanks. The salesman appeared to think that that tank would fall out the bottom onto the road! That would seem to be a very poor deign.

Since i will often be well away from a water source this presents a problem. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this issue and an Xlite. Thanks
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:52 AM   #2
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Also depending on tank size the water weight will deduct from your cargo carrying capacity.
I've always carried a full tank of water when boon-docking albeit I don't have an ultra lite either


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Old 01-10-2016, 09:54 AM   #3
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Sorry if there is a thread for this already but I can't seem to find one.

I have just purchased a new Xlite 261 BHXL. After the sale the dealer strongly cautioned about driving with water in the tanks. The salesman appeared to think that that tank would fall out the bottom onto the road! That would seem to be a very poor deign.

Since i will often be well away from a water source this presents a problem. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this issue and an Xlite. Thanks
Warren

Of course he did not voice this concern before you signed on dotted line.
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:07 AM   #4
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This is crazy. Although I have heard stories on hear of the tank not being supported properly and falling out or bulging out the underbelly, I don't believe for a second that as built from the Mfg you should not be able to carry a full tank of water with you. That's why it's there in the first place. Not so you can fill it when you get to your destination.
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:18 AM   #5
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There are threads where a tank has dropped.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...mO5UB0QXzYjyAw

Braces have been added or beefed up to handle the weight.
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:26 AM   #6
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Sorry if there is a thread for this already but I can't seem to find one.

I have just purchased a new Xlite 261 BHXL. After the sale the dealer strongly cautioned about driving with water in the tanks. The salesman appeared to think that that tank would fall out the bottom onto the road! That would seem to be a very poor deign.

Since i will often be well away from a water source this presents a problem. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this issue and an Xlite. Thanks
Warren
I would say that the Bottom is OPEN,so you could look at your F/W Tank from below Before and After you put Water in the Tank and see if it looks Substantial for Holding water and Travel! Some that have Posted Pic's on Here are NOT very Substantial and Have Failed! Youroo!!
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:13 AM   #7
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1 gallon water weighs 8.34 lbs. - plus the ballast motion ! When we picked up our new MH , the first thing I did was drain most of a full tank of water.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:13 AM   #8
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Since this is a new unit i would ask the salesman man if that would be cover under the warrenty, just curious what his answer would be ?
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:31 AM   #9
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Our Work & Play TT toy hauler has a 110 gallon tank. We always fill it up completely before heading to our races. No problems for thousands of miles with close to 1000 lbs. of water.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:37 AM   #10
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1 gallon water weighs 8.34 lbs. - plus the ballast motion ! When we picked up our new MH , the first thing I did was drain most of a full tank of water.
Maybe you should of left it full, so you would know if you ever needed to haul a load it doesn't fall out the bottom of the rig?

OP, for a salesman to mention something like that after the sale it sounds like he knows something. Like a design issue with that model.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:45 AM   #11
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I have always traveled with a full tank, at least on lay way out to camp. I don't remember seeing anything in the "Manual" about not carrying water.
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Old 01-10-2016, 12:17 PM   #12
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We don't boon-dock but we do carry 1/2 to 3/4 tank of water in case we need to spend the night at wally world or a like place. being able to use our own potty and wash hands is also a nice.
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Traveling with Full fresh tank

While it's not practical to travel with the extra weight ( fuel consumption etc) , we fill out as close to wherever we are going to Boondocking and because we travel in remote areas this may represent several hundred miles and have never had an issue. Last summer we went to the Arctic Ocena via the Dalton Highway so had a nearly full tank for most of a week and all on gravel road and no issues. Can't see ours because we have a 28RKS Wildcat with a completely enclosed belly but hVent seen anything to concern me.
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Old 01-10-2016, 01:20 PM   #14
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Mine failed and cracked after two yrs.
I always kept it full when towing.
Forrest River picked up the tab$800.
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Agree with PhoneDude. We do the same. You might also want to check with FR about this to see if there is a design flaw with your model.
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:44 PM   #16
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I needed to have water in the tanks because where I camp the is no water or electricity.
My tank started to sag and broke the wood holding it in place. So all I did was get a piece of plywood and some heavy duty tie straps and it is holding the tank for now.
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:58 PM   #17
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Every camper I own regardless of brand gets reinforcement of existing water tank retention hardware and additional brackets.

I've had 5 campers, 5 different brands and they all had thin straps that were talk welded. I boondock and all my campers were lifted. Towing off road for miles places a lot of strain on the retention hardware. I have had one tank fall off on me when the tack welds failed on a strap. I don't rely on tack welds and use angle iron and threaded rod to reinforce my tanks.

Reading countless threads from most manufacturer unique forums, the dirty secret is that it is hard to warranty a tank falling out if it occurred when towing with it full....wierd but true.
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:45 PM   #18
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Water weight barely affects fuel mileage, compared to frontal air resistance. That affects it WAY more.

Since we dry camp 90% of the time, we always travel with a full tank of water.
Been doing this for 25 years of camping, with no problems.
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Thanks all. You have been very helpful.
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Old 01-10-2016, 05:30 PM   #20
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i dont move my trailer around much, but when i do i try to have it empty as much as possible.

Like mentioned the whole point of having a F/W tank is to be able to pack in the water you need for your camping trip. if you had to fill it while youre there you may as well not even have a tank. That being said, i dont think alot of the setups are designed to have the fresh water filled for long distance travelling, rather to travel 'dry' till you hit the last place you can fill it, and go from there with a full tank.

With 150gal F/W tank, that really cuts into my cargo capacity (thats 1200lbs of water), so travel is usually done with an empty tank till the absolute last place to fill up, and with such a large tank i fill it to the top, i would rather have it heavy than driving around with 75gal (600lbs) sloshing around!
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