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Old 09-05-2018, 03:19 PM   #21
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I really want some insight into what everyone is using. I used a non inverted genny in the past to run one of our ac's. As everyone knows they are loud and could possibly cause damage to the electronics. We recently picked up a new 372rd Heritage Glen. I am wanting to upgrade our genset. I need something that will run our fridge (residential) and one ac. And also a large tv in the evening. I have a budget of about $1500. I really like the idea of buying 2 to run in parallel so when we go in the summer, we can run both, but if we are some where cooler and dont need the ac, we can just take one to keep the batteries charged. With that said, If I was going to buy one only, for now anyway. I am thinking this model...

https://www.amazon.com/Champion-3400...=champion+3500

I like that I could upgrade later to a second over time and run 50 amp in parallel.

If I am going to buy 2. I am thinking this set up...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CPWX2E6...ing=UTF8&psc=1

You have to manually choose the power pack to see what I am talking about.

But anyway, I am open to any and all suggestions and insight.
k_allison510, I use a Harbor Freight Predator 3500i ($659 with a coupon last fall) which handles my 30A entire camper load (A/C, Fridge, Water Heater, TV and fans)and is very quiet. It weighs in at just under 100#. If you are wanting 2 of the 2000i models, you may be interested in the HF Predators, they run $449 currently on sale. both inverter generators are able to be paralleled, although HF has not produced a 50A Outlet yet, only the 30A parallel port. ...Swampy
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:33 PM   #22
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I have the Champion 3400 you noted. Runs AC and MW and other stuff, too, and the price is great. I'm getting older and its more difficult to load in the truck bed. There is something to be said about two 2000 Hondas being easier to handle, except the price.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:50 PM   #23
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I like most of your choices. I’ve got a couple of Honda EU 2000s. The thing I like most about them is the ease of removing unused fuel from the carburetor and the ease of cleaning the carburetor when necessary. The Honda has a carburetor drain and with the switch off and a couple of pulls on the starter cord the fuel is gone. Unused fuel left in a gasoline engine means future headaches.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:57 PM   #24
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I have found that the Predator 3500 is the best valued inverter that will do the best job if you do not want to spend $2000. for a honda. See the complete video at: and sometimes is on sale at $650.00 with coupon..https://www.harborfreight.com/3500-w...tor-63584.html
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Old 09-05-2018, 04:01 PM   #25
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I have a Champion 3100 we are very happy with but.....

If I could do it all over again I would have bought 2 2000 watt units and the parrell kit it would have been much more versatile.
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Old 09-05-2018, 04:02 PM   #26
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Just so you know, Hondas have fuel pumps which makes adding a nurse tank very simple. Most other brands do not, and require substantial mods or gravity feed for extended run tanks.

Looking at total cost per year over the lifetime, Hondas do very well.
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Old 09-05-2018, 04:31 PM   #27
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I had this, https://www.championpowerequipment.c...tart-inverter/
Which I practically stole from homedepot.com for $715. But I returned it because it overloaded starting my 13.5 A/C. At the time I did not know about Micro-Air Easy Start. I replaced it with https://www.championpowerequipment.c...tart-inverter/
from cabelas.com for $999. It was probably a break-even in the end. I've been very happy with it, the few times I've needed it.
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Old 09-05-2018, 04:45 PM   #28
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TOO LOUD for campground usage.

Just curious why you would say this when it is advertised at 64 db which is the same for most inverter generators.
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Just curious why you would say this when it is advertised at 64 db which is the same for most inverter generators.
No, most true inverter generators are in the 53-57db ranges at idle, not 64db at idle like the one posted.
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I love my predator 3500...quiet and gets the job done... This past weekend I got 11.5 hours of run time on a tank of gas... The AC was running about 3 hours of that in 80 degree outside temp.
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A few years ago I got (2) WEN 56200i 2000W from Woot! for $375 each plus the matching parallel kit for $50 from AMZ. The engines inside are Yamaha clones - likely made in the same China shop... Currently they sell on AMZ for a little more, but the reviews are strong & they keep selling...

They are quiet, start on the first pull, & I can lift them in & out of the truck without help. We use them when we boondock on the beach. If the sand harms them or they get stolen, I'm not out the price of a Honda... Walking past others' campsites, I would say my pair are quieter than the actual Yamahas but not as quite at the pricier Hondas. However, move-along another 10 feet away and I cannot tell the difference...
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Thanks for all the replies. I am really leaning towards the Champion. I dont think the easy start ac is viable for me as I would have to purchase 2. We usually run the living room ac in the day, then switch to the bedroom ac for bedtime. Running 2 would be great, but that doesn't seem feasible. I did some checking and the 3400 Champion will parallel with the Champion 2000. That would give me 4800 running watts for hot weather use. And 1700 running watts when I didnt need the ac. What do you guys think? 2 Honda's and 2 easy starts are not an option for me. I am going to my local HF tomorrow to look at the predator series.
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Just got back from a 10,000 mile walk-about and frequently exercised my Predator 3500 watt inverter/generator. It was only $649 with a coupon and it has the same specs as a Honda but more power. It runs 11 hours on a 2.6 gallon tank and runs our big AC as well as all the little stuff. We used it for a week solid in the mountains of Montana. It is a little over 100 lbs. I also have a Predator 6500 generator for the house and a Predator on my pressure washer. No problems with any of them.
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:41 PM   #34
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Champion 3500 dual fuel here and couldn't be more pleased.
I've never had gasoline in it.
Very quiet.
Propane will run at any altitude without re-jetting the carb.
Easy oil change.

My good friend has a food truck for his full time job and uses the same generator several days a week to power all the electrical on his truck. His experience has been like mine...just change the oil.

Good luck with your choice.
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:42 PM   #35
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Definitely going to check out the Predators tomorrow. I guess the first decision I have to make is if I want 2 small gennys to run in parallel or one big one.

AND.....I have no idea what my fridge pulls watts wise. I do now that it is wired into the inverter or it has a separate inverter. It will run off battery power for about 10 hours. As far as residential fridges go, its pretty small. With that being said, its bigger than the traditional rv double door fridge we had in our diesel pusher.
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Thanks for all the replies. I am really leaning towards the Champion. I dont think the easy start ac is viable for me as I would have to purchase 2. We usually run the living room ac in the day, then switch to the bedroom ac for bedtime. Running 2 would be great, but that doesn't seem feasible. I did some checking and the 3400 Champion will parallel with the Champion 2000. That would give me 4800 running watts for hot weather use. And 1700 running watts when I didnt need the ac. What do you guys think? 2 Honda's and 2 easy starts are not an option for me. I am going to my local HF tomorrow to look at the predator series.
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I love to read generator threads! Every time I learn something new. From what I have read inverter generators start to add throttle at about 25% load. Perhaps people that own the popular models could confirm this or post how much load it takes for the unit to go above a basic idle. If the “25 percent rule” is really true a Honda 2000 will start to get louder at about 400 watt load. (1600x.25) that would also mean that the Champion digital hybrid would start to throttle up at about 875 watt load. Using my 1300 watt running (not starting) AC load the above mentioned Honda is going to be a whole lot more into the throttle than the Champion 4000/3500 also mentioned above. If this is true, with just the AC running wouldn’t the bigger Champion be running quieter? I would think that a similar outcome would happen with 2 Honda 2000s paired (800 watts). Substitute any brand and the numbers should be the same if the “25 percent rule” holds up.i would love to see someone who has 2 2000 watt generators in parallel running an AC and then just change it to just one to measure how much louder it is. Jay
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Where did you find that coupon. The best one I could find is for $699.
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Where did you find that coupon. The best one I could find is for $699.
https://www.harborfreight.com/savings_coupons.html
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Where did you find that coupon. The best one I could find is for $699.
It's often listed for that price in my HF coupon app on my smartphone.
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