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Old 09-04-2018, 08:19 PM   #1
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What generator are you guys using?

I really want some insight into what everyone is using. I used a non inverted genny in the past to run one of our ac's. As everyone knows they are loud and could possibly cause damage to the electronics. We recently picked up a new 372rd Heritage Glen. I am wanting to upgrade our genset. I need something that will run our fridge (residential) and one ac. And also a large tv in the evening. I have a budget of about $1500. I really like the idea of buying 2 to run in parallel so when we go in the summer, we can run both, but if we are some where cooler and dont need the ac, we can just take one to keep the batteries charged. With that said, If I was going to buy one only, for now anyway. I am thinking this model...

https://www.amazon.com/Champion-3400...=champion+3500

I like that I could upgrade later to a second over time and run 50 amp in parallel.

If I am going to buy 2. I am thinking this set up...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CPWX2E6...ing=UTF8&psc=1

You have to manually choose the power pack to see what I am talking about.

But anyway, I am open to any and all suggestions and insight.
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There are probably over a thousand different valid answers to your questions. I will relate my limited experience. I own a Champion 4000/3500 open frame that runs our whole 30 amp unit with no problems at all. Their customer service is second to none. It is however too loud for most campgrounds. I am thinking of upgrading to the digital inverter hybrid but I want to see one in action first. The model that you are looking at is very nice but have you considered getting remote start instead of dual fuel? I thought it would be great to push a button on a cold morning instead of going outside and starting the generator. A lot of people here run Hondaís but 2 of them will go way past the $1500 budget that you have. The guys that pair up 2 Hondaís or 2 Champion 2000 watt units say that it runs quieter than a 3500 single that has to run harder to make the ac work. Having 2 generators means that they are each lighter and easier to handle. The thing to ask besides what you plan on running is what are the other features that are important to you. Noise? Weight? Not having to get up in the middle of the night to refuel? Remote start? Jay
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:11 PM   #3
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So,

I have a:

220 volt 6500 watt Coleman open frame for the house

Yamaha EF3000SiB that I used to carry in the truck bed

Replaced RV generator with a Honda 2000 Companion; plan to buy a Honda 2200 to parallel with it.
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:14 PM   #4
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Have a Honda 3000IS Handi that I never use because it will not run my AC in Eco Mode and thus runs out of gas in 4 hours.
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Have a Honda 3000IS Handi that I never use because it will not run my AC in Eco Mode and thus runs out of gas in 4 hours.
Put a Micro-Air Easy Start across the start capacitor and it will run from a Honda 2000 in Eco mode.

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Old 09-04-2018, 09:24 PM   #6
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I have the Dual Fuel Champion 3400 Inverter you are considering and must say that it is a great generator. It runs my 13.5 KW A/C and my Dometic refrigerator, plus all of the interior lights and TV without any issues. I keep it stored in the covered bed of my Tundra and have enough 30 AMP extension cord to run it to my trailer from there. I have never needed to run it on propane, but I know that I can if needed. I bought an hour meter for it and have had it for nearly 18 months -- right now it is $150 cheaper than when I bought it. Strong recommendation for it -- BTW, you need a neutral - ground plug if you have a Progressive Industries EMS in your trailer (it has a floating neutral).
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Old 09-04-2018, 09:41 PM   #7
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Herk7769 is correct about the easy start and the ac running off one 2000 watt generator. A really good product IMHO. One thing about my 4000/3500 open frame that I consider a real plus is fuel tank size. I can fill it up after dinner and it will run the ac all night and not need gas until after breakfast. The Champion digital hybrid also has a pretty big tank. A lot of guys have added 6 gallon boat tanks that they can hook up to a Honda 2200 or 2000 pretty easily. If the OP decides to run the ac with a 2000 watt inverter and an easy start the ac when running will take up almost all the running watts that one 2000 watt generator makes. My 13.5 k Coleman Mach runs on about 1250-1325 watts once itís compressor is started. The borrowed Honda I tested with was a typical 2000watt unit that puts out 1600 watts continuously and 2000 watts for up to 30 minuets. In that situation you could run the ac, the converter if the batteries are close to a full charge and a tv. Jay
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Put a Micro-Air Easy Start across the start capacitor and it will run from a Honda 2000 in Eco mode.

https://www.microair.net/products/ea...nt=30176048267

Don't forget there is a discount code for Forest River!

Use discount code:

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No kidding; it really works great.
Just did this and purchased a Honda Eu2200. Works awesome and I don't need to carry the 150# Eu3000 around anymore. And I can confirm the new micro air did allow the A/C to run on ECO, or maybe a few RPM's above it. Good luck

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I have the Dual Fuel Champion 3400 Inverter you are considering and must say that it is a great generator. It runs my 13.5 KW A/C and my Dometic refrigerator, plus all of the interior lights and TV without any issues. I keep it stored in the covered bed of my Tundra and have enough 30 AMP extension cord to run it to my trailer from there. I have never needed to run it on propane, but I know that I can if needed. I bought an hour meter for it and have had it for nearly 18 months -- right now it is $150 cheaper than when I bought it. Strong recommendation for it -- BTW, you need a neutral - ground plug if you have a Progressive Industries EMS in your trailer (it has a floating neutral).
^^^ Same generator only marked 3500 W from Camping World (on sale last year).

Flawless. I've run it on propane when I know it will be running all day as a tank will keep it going for 15 hours or so. Tank of gas only half that. I carry spare gas for truck and generator and two spare propane tanks for generator and trailer.
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Old 09-04-2018, 11:27 PM   #10
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Predator 3500

I’ve been doing lots of research on this to ensure I can run the AC, etc. I narrowed it down to three inverter/generators: firman 3200w, champion 4000w and the predator 3500w. They are all similar price points and can run the electronics cleanly, but the Predator is much quieter. I passed by one running at a campsite two weeks ago, and it was as quiet or quieter than a Honda. The Firman and Champion sound like rattlecans by comparison, but I only heard these on YouTube videos. You can get any of these for under $700. The other thing to consider is fuel consumption, and these are all among the best I found for efficiency.
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I have the 3400w champion. I bought it even though I already had a Yamaha 2000is because well....more power. I wanted to be able to chain the two 3400w champions together later if I needed. Turns out right now it runs great with one. I power my inverter TV, fans, phones, and AC without issues all at once in eco mode ramping up for the AC to start. I run the fridge on propane. It would not do well with a residential fridge AND AC to start one while the other is going but two may be able to cut it. Even with an easy start on the AC I know one 2200w generator would not run the residential fridge and the AC. I would question if two would be able to support both if starting at the same time. The power pack is an interesting option that was not available when I was looking.

What is the peak draw of the fridge? I have never really tried to monitor one and they seem to vary on energy ratings.

I love the propane option on champion as it means a 20# tank will go 14.5hrs as does 5gal of gas. You can find a conversion kit for an external tank that includes a pump so you could go all night or you could do a gravity fed extended tank as well but the tank would have to be higher than the champion without the pump.

Running two means much more gas...you would go through up 3-4 20# propane tanks a day or up to 15-20 gal of gas so two generators can be more of a hassle if trying to do it long term. If you are willing to go gas only then maybe the predators from HF if you can get a parallel kit for them yet and budget is most important to you.

For your needs you may want to look at a larger single inverter generator assuming getting it out of the truck is not a concern. I think you may already know that 6500w B&S wont work and the yamaha's are pricey at higher ratings so it depends on what you think is easier and if it would be worth the extra cash.

Best of luck! Share the fridge rating and maybe someone else can provide more detailed feedback.
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Iíve been doing lots of research on this to ensure I can run the AC, etc. I narrowed it down to three inverter/generators: firman 3200w, champion 4000w and the predator 3500w. They are all similar price points and can run the electronics cleanly, but the Predator is much quieter. I passed by one running at a campsite two weeks ago, and it was as quiet or quieter than a Honda. The Firman and Champion sound like rattlecans by comparison, but I only heard these on YouTube videos. You can get any of these for under $700.
The Champion 4,000 watt generator is an open frame generator, not an inverter type. Yes, it is loud but if you'd compared the Champion Inverter type you'd probably not notice any difference. Yes, the Champion may cost a little more but they are definitely reliable and have fantastic Customer Service.
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The Champion 4,000 watt generator is an open frame generator, not an inverter type. Yes, it is loud but if you'd compared the Champion Inverter type you'd probably not notice any difference. Yes, the Champion may cost a little more but they are definitely reliable and have fantastic Customer Service.
Hereís the champion inverter Iím referring to:


Champion 4000-Watt RV Ready Digital Hybrid Open Frame Inverter with Quiet Technology

https://www.amazon.com/Champion-4000...rter+generator
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I have 2-2000w wen inverters with parred kit,enough power for my needs
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Hereís the champion inverter Iím referring to:


Champion 4000-Watt RV Ready Digital Hybrid Open Frame Inverter with Quiet Technology

https://www.amazon.com/Champion-4000...rter+generator
TOO LOUD for campground usage.
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understand, also, that the Ď50ampí in parallel may not be the same as what you might be thinking of when it comes to campground 50amp service, which is 100amps carried by two different legs and thru a double-pole 50amp 240v breaker at the pedestal. A big difference, and no 50amp plug like this would be found on most generators...

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Hi,

Two Honda 2000s, a six gallon extended tank, and a parallel kit -- used in various combinations -- equals one pretty satisfied camper over the last 10 years.

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Two Honda 2000s, a six gallon extended tank, and a parallel kit -- used in various combinations -- equals one pretty satisfied camper over the last 10 years.

FWIW.

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Same exact setup, just a few years older. Usually just run one, but use two to run our 15k a/c on eco mode. No problem.
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