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Old 07-23-2020, 09:47 AM   #1
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194BHS Tongue Weight

I'm looking at the 194BHS and am confused at the hitch weight. The brochure has it listed at 338lbs and the website 428lbs. A 428lbs dry hitch weight would seem to indicate the trailer is front heavy. Which is these is correct and what does it include? I know from the manufacturers documentation that the UVW includes the propane and batteries, but does the hitch weight do so as well?

I towing with a vehicle with a 5000lbs tow rating, 1296lbs payload capacity, and 500lbs tongue weight. If the loaded trailer comes to ~4200lbs I'll be on the high side but should be fine with the vehicle weight, but the tongue weight has me concerned.

If it is starting at 428 and doesn't include propane and battery, plus the primary travel trailer storage is in the front it could go well above 500lbs and well over 12% of the trailer weight.

Is the 500lbs listed in the vehicle manual just a standard 10%? Even with an estimated 400lbs in the tow vehicle it still would have 900lbs of payload remaining and I typically see people calculating maximum tongue weight off based on the vehicle payload.
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I'm looking at the 194BHS and am confused at the hitch weight. The brochure has it listed at 338lbs and the website 428lbs. A 428lbs dry hitch weight would seem to indicate the trailer is front heavy. Which is these is correct and what does it include? I know from the manufacturers documentation that the UVW includes the propane and batteries, but does the hitch weight do so as well?

I towing with a vehicle with a 5000lbs tow rating, 1296lbs payload capacity, and 500lbs tongue weight. If the loaded trailer comes to ~4200lbs I'll be on the high side but should be fine with the vehicle weight, but the tongue weight has me concerned.

If it is starting at 428 and doesn't include propane and battery, plus the primary travel trailer storage is in the front it could go well above 500lbs and well over 12% of the trailer weight.

Is the 500lbs listed in the vehicle manual just a standard 10%? Even with an estimated 400lbs in the tow vehicle it still would have 900lbs of payload remaining and I typically see people calculating maximum tongue weight off based on the vehicle payload.
You didn't include what Brand a 194BHS is. Some brands share the same model number.
If it's a single axle, you should use 13% of the trailer's GVWR for a loaded tongue weight.
If it's the 428 number, the loaded tongue weight will easily exceed the 500lbs max tongue weight.
The dry tongue weight number does NOT include the weight of the battery since that's a dealer-installed item.
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You didn't include what Brand a 194BHS is. Some brands share the same model number.
Sorry, Apex Nano.
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Sorry, Apex Nano.
I'd contact Coachmen for clarification.
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I'd contact Coachmen for clarification.
Anyone know how to contact Coachmen and get a response?
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For whatever value it may be, I have a 2020 Apex Nano 193BHS. The listed hitch weight is 370lbs. Using HaulGuage, I measured a tongue weight of ~625lbs fully loaded on our last trip. I use an Andersen WDH, which weighs about 60lbs, so a hitch weight of ~565lbs.
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For whatever value it may be, I have a 2020 Apex Nano 193BHS. The listed hitch weight is 370lbs. Using HaulGuage, I measured a tongue weight of ~625lbs fully loaded on our last trip. I use an Andersen WDH, which weighs about 60lbs, so a hitch weight of ~565lbs.
Thanks, that is helpful.
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