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Old 07-20-2020, 12:04 PM   #21
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Would an Explorer work? Yep, if you keep your loads light and move around with all the tanks empty. I guess the first question I would ask, is are you gonna hang on to the vehicle? Because it's going to take a toll and the vehicle (as was said above). Big difference in towing on the flats than through rolling hills, for example as for as load demands on the engine.

I would calculate what I think my max loads would likely be and try to get in the 80% max towing capacity range with whatever that number might be. Unless you don't plan on passing, entering a busy freeway, nor driving in hills or mountains.
Concur with the first paragraph because I towed my signature TT with a 2008 V6 Explorer.
On the second paragraph, I would add the caveat of using the TT GVWR for that 80% towing capacity recommendation. Because TV load capacity is part of that listed towing capacity and we tend to load up our TTs until we are forced to cut back due to overloading somewhere.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:29 AM   #22
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Glad I'm not towing with my explorer

Although I ended up purchasing a Freedom Express 195RBS instead of the Apex 203RBK I was initially looking at; I am very glad I did not choose to tow with my Explorer Sport for a TT that size/weight and got my Expedition for towing. The Explorer would probably do well pulling a smaller/lighter TT, boat, or pop-up; but I wouldn't consider pulling a nano 208/203/213 with it.
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Old 11-20-2020, 07:28 AM   #23
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Hi all, I have a 2020 explorer ST and have pulled a bunch of different TT's with it. The weight limit of the ST and the V6 is 5600lbs and 560lb tongue. GCVWR is I believe around 13000lbs. The payload sticker on mine is around 1300lbs. I really like the 208bhs but with only a WDH you would be over the tongue max. 518lb trailer tongue + 75lb WDH is going to over load the tongue. Are my calculations correct?
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Old 11-20-2020, 01:01 PM   #24
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Hi all, I have a 2020 explorer ST and have pulled a bunch of different TT's with it. The weight limit of the ST and the V6 is 5600lbs and 560lb tongue. GCVWR is I believe around 13000lbs. The payload sticker on mine is around 1300lbs. I really like the 208bhs but with only a WDH you would be over the tongue max. 518lb trailer tongue + 75lb WDH is going to over load the tongue. Are my calculations correct?
Well, hard to tell if your calculations are correct, when you use terms like: "I believe" or "is around".
As someone that owns a F150 3.5 Ecoboost with Max Tow package, I find it hard to believe that an Explorer has a GCVWR of 13,00lbs.
Plus the fictional "dry" tongue weight of 516lbs will be closer to 650lbs, when loaded for camping. And most WDHs weigh around 100lbs.
So the actual loaded tongue weight will easily exceed the Explorer's max tongue weight capacity.
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I'm sorry. GCVWR is 10,800lbs. Payload sticker is 1309.
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I'm sorry. GCVWR is 10,800lbs. Payload sticker is 1309.
Your calculations on the 208BHS are understated. The loaded tongue weight would be much heavier.
1309lbs of payload is pretty good for a mid-sized SUV.
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The 2020 Explorer with the 3.0 V6 ecoboost 5600lb tow limit isn't due to engine or transmission or axles or suspension it is due to the Class III hitch installed on it. The Lincoln Aviator, exactly same powertrain and chassis has a Class IV hitch on it and has a rated tow capacity of 6700lbs and 670lbs of tongue weight.

We just ordered a 2021 Aviator to replace our current tow vehicle. If you search I have posted what I tow and with what vehicle currently.
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The 2020 Explorer with the 3.0 V6 ecoboost 5600lb tow limit isn't due to engine or transmission or axles or suspension it is due to the Class III hitch installed on it. The Lincoln Aviator, exactly same powertrain and chassis has a Class IV hitch on it and has a rated tow capacity of 6700lbs and 670lbs of tongue weight.

We just ordered a 2021 Aviator to replace our current tow vehicle. If you search I have posted what I tow and with what vehicle currently.
Not exactly, as only the Explorer ST trim gets the same powertrain (400hp/415tq) as Aviator. Otherwise, the Explorer 3.0 is 365/380.

Iíd venture that there must be more to it than just the hitch; as the STís F/R GAWR (2790/3490 lbs) and GVWR (6150 lbs) are lower than the Aviatorís F/R GAWR (2950/3755 lbs) and GVWR (6536 lbs)
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Not exactly, as only the Explorer ST trim gets the same powertrain (400hp/415tq) as Aviator. Otherwise, the Explorer 3.0 is 365/380.

Iíd venture that there must be more to it than just the hitch; as the STís F/R GAWR (2790/3490 lbs) and GVWR (6150 lbs) are lower than the Aviatorís F/R GAWR (2950/3755 lbs) and GVWR (6536 lbs)
Powertrain is not just the engine, it is all the components from the engine to the rear end. The engines are actually identical, the only thing different is the tuning of the engine that gives the extra power. I can tell you that our source has confirmed that there is no difference in the components, they assured us if we put the Aviator class IV factory trailer hitch on the Explorer we could have the same tow capacity, only problem you can not purchase the class IV hitch through a dealer. Yes they have different ratings as you stated but the axles, transmission, rear end are all the same no difference.
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