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12-12-2017, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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3 vs 4 steps on your 5er entry
Our 360IBL has 3 aluma tread steps. Very nice and very sturdy. I did notice at the dealer there were other versions of the 360 that had 4 steps.
4 out of the last 5 outings we had to use a supplemental step and we are wondering if we should switch to the 4 step version. ($260).
Any of you 4-step folks ever get into a situation where the 4th step hits the ground ?
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12-12-2017, 11:14 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Our 5th wheel has 4 steps and we like that it does.
Been in one situation where the step was only about an inch off the ground but it didn't hit.
I've been wrestling with the concept of the rigid swing down steps on these newer models because of the situation you mention. At least with our folding steps, the bottom step folds on top on the next step up and if we were ever in a situation where the bottom step hit, we could simply fold it on top of the 2nd step and basically have three.
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12-12-2017, 11:15 AM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
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4 steps forever.
And even better than the hung steps are steps that positively connect to the ground. The GlowStep Revolution steps from Torklift. There isn’t a better step on the market.
http://learntorv.com/product-review-...n-by-torklift/
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12-12-2017, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: North Alabama
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The only time our 4th step hits the ground is if there is a raised concrete pad that is quite a bit higher than where the the trailer wheels are touching the ground. In that one instance, we pulled up a bit so the steps were just off the front of the pad.
We really like that 4th step.
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12-12-2017, 01:25 PM
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Member
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When we bought our 5er about 18 months or so ago we had been full timing in a travel trailer. My wife has some issues with her knees and therefore some difficulty climbing the 3 steps to the new (to us) 5er. So one of the things that we had the dealer do before we took delivery was to install a folding 4 step unit. Altho it is not as steady (it gives some when I step on the lowest step) as the old one, she surely appreciates it.
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12-12-2017, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arlington, Texas
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4 steps is best for us.
Jester
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12-12-2017, 01:34 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryR
When we bought our 5er about 18 months or so ago we had been full timing in a travel trailer. My wife has some issues with her knees and therefore some difficulty climbing the 3 steps to the new (to us) 5er. So one of the things that we had the dealer do before we took delivery was to install a folding 4 step unit. Altho it is not as steady (it gives some when I step on the lowest step) as the old one, she surely appreciates it.
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If you have folding steps, get yourself something like this. (or a scissor jack)
In the quick few seconds it takes to put into place when camping, it gives super stability.
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F&AM Lodge 358 Somerset, PA - JAFFA Shrine - Altoona, PA
Days Camped ☼ '19=118 ☼ '20=116 ☼ '21=123 ☼ '22=134 ☼ '23=118☼ '24=90
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12-12-2017, 01:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
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My wife also has knee problems, so we swapped out the three step for a four step. Have not had problems hitting the ground. The occasional concrete pad if it’s high but then I pull away 6” and life goes on. Four steps make it easier to climb aboard.
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12-12-2017, 02:37 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 13
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We have the solid 4 step system that folds up insside the door for travel, it has adjustable stabilizers on each side that adjust to terrain differences. We love how stable it is for us, we are also fulltimers.
Morryde StepAbove 4 step system Google it, $317.00
Rod and Dan
2018 Cedar Creek Silverback 35 IK
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12-12-2017, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: In a big child free home - except for me
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our 2018 5th wheel toy hauler has 3 and there is a huge gap to ground. also the rear step bottom step is about 7 degrees lifted off level towards the front - upwards (which amongst other things needs replacing next spring)
4 would be nice for little people as well.
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12-12-2017, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: N GA Mtns
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We have the 35ROK and swapped out for the 4-step. The wife is only 5' tall so the 3-step was a bit rough for her. We have had no problems at any site so far. The swap is very easy and is best with a helper. My helper in this case was a floor jack.
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12-12-2017, 03:19 PM
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Dorothy and the Tinman
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Continental US
Posts: 50
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Lave having 4 steps. Makes my lif a whole lot easier. Only once in 4 years have we had the bottom step very close to the ground.
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Don and Joan
2014 Cedar Creek 36CKTS
2010 Ford F250 SD 4x2 Air Bag Assist
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12-12-2017, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Yakima, WA
Posts: 131
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4 steps for all the stated reasons. Even if you don't have knee problems, it is easier on you when you are carrying loads of stuff to fill your 5er, to say nothing about potential family and friends with knee or hip issues.
I also like the bottom step stability options that have been given.
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12-12-2017, 04:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Phoenix
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When we bought our 5'r, the 4th step had been removed (and lost) by the PO when it was traded in. As part of the deal, the dealer gave us a very rugged adjustable step that made it SOOOO much easier to enter the unit. I like the fact we can park on un-level surfaces and after leveling the unit, we can custom adjust the bottom step to our liking and enter easy.
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2012 Ram 3500 DRW Crew Cab, 6.7 HO Cummins
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12-15-2017, 11:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Thanks for everybody's feedback I installed the four steps yesterday.
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2016 RAM 3500 DRW 4x4 LB LoneStar, w/RDS 33Gal Aux tank, Timbrens, Andersen Ultimate2, SwiftHitch SH04
2018 Chaparral 360IBL w/TST507 TPMS, Lippert GC3 Autolevel, Furrion Backup Cam, Progressive HW50C
2006 RAM 3500 DRW LoneStar Edition
2011 Starcraft 392BHUw/Andersen No-Sway
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