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Old 01-07-2020, 11:47 AM   #1
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Talking Apex Nano FINALLY getting flush mounted covered sinks and ranges for 2020!

An Apex Nano will probably be our first RV.

It REALLY bugged me how Coachman had this HUGE surface mount double sink with no covers and surface mount double range. Why have a kitchen area if you can't store anything on it nor prep anything? What a colossal waste of space imo.

Old style:


Looks like they finally wised up in 2020? New flush mount kitchen! WITH sink covers!


You can also see the new kitchen setup in this recently uploaded YouTube Vid:

However, I looked at some 2020 193BHS sale ads and some of them still have the old style layout? Are the sellers just using old photos for the listing? I can't find any documentation if this flush mount kitchen is an optional upgrade on Coachman's site. They do however list covered sinks as standard on their latest Apex brochure on their website. Maybe they're just using up their old stock parts first? Anyone have the 411 on this much needed design improvement?
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Old 01-08-2020, 12:50 PM   #2
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Another interesting factoid.

The range was rotated on that YouTube model vs the picture I posted. I prefer the YouTube version since it provides a thicker counter space strip between the range and the sink.

Guess this all boils down that I'll have to get eyeballs on whatever Apex Nano I purchase before I put the deposit down so my expectations aren't thrown a curve ball at pickup time.
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In poking around online, it looks like the Apex Outfitter edition is the one with the flush sink and stove top, and the apex Nano doesn’t. I didn’t even know the flush counter top was an option until seeing your post and now I’m really curious about it.
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The new kitchen surface layout is new for late production 2020 models that were built 9-2019 or after according to the RV Nerd himself, Josh @ Haylett RV. That's why you're seeing both styles of kitchen counters even though they are both "2020" models.

The Outfitter package adds:
Aluminum rims with off road tires, a toy lock, and a bike rack:
https://coachmenrv.com/brochures/202...kageposter.pdf


The Off Grid package adds:
2x 20lb propane tanks with cover, high volume vent fan, solar prep with a roof panel, and a shower water saver:
https://coachmenrv.com/brochures/202...kageposter.pdf


Those links are found @ the bottom of:
https://coachmenrv.com/travel-trailers/apex-ultra-lite


I'm definitely gonna get the Off Grid package. Comparing similar model MSRPs with and without it it appears to MSRP for ~$1k. The bigger fan will be nice, especially when loading before travel and just needing to vent the place. Sure I could DIY but that would require cutting into my new roof.


I swear I should just be a coachman salesman. Sucks being an information geek and having to pry around for all this stuff. Guess they expect you to lean on their dealers though. Who knows. Their website should have more info IMO with all the details.
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:46 PM   #5
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Thanks for the great info. Good to know! We plan on picking one up in the next few months to pull behind our Touareg.
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Old 01-23-2020, 05:23 PM   #6
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These are all nice upgrades coachmen is offering now. I swapped out my fan in mine for the fantastic unit, the kitchen counter space is a gripe of mine but looks like they have solved that. My Apex has been a great unit, only issue I had is the cheapo plastic bushings they use wore out on me fairly quickly and failed on a trip causing the shackle to rub the mounting point. I swapped everything out with a Dexter kit which is much more robust and bronze bushings with wet bolts. That would be my first upgrade advice to any of you looking to get an apex and start traveling.
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Old 01-23-2020, 08:28 PM   #7
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Link to kit?
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Link to kit?

No problem,

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Lea...71-358-00.html

Great mod, and helped stiffen things up and eliminate any creaking/squeaking.
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I'm glad we're getting one of the last 2020 187RB's, gonna have all the upgrades in it.
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The new kitchen surface layout is new for late production 2020 models that were built 9-2019 or after according to the RV Nerd himself, Josh @ Haylett RV. That's why you're seeing both styles of kitchen counters even though they are both "2020" models.

The Outfitter package adds:
Aluminum rims with off road tires, a toy lock, and a bike rack:
https://coachmenrv.com/brochures/202...kageposter.pdf


The Off Grid package adds:
2x 20lb propane tanks with cover, high volume vent fan, solar prep with a roof panel, and a shower water saver:
https://coachmenrv.com/brochures/202...kageposter.pdf


Those links are found @ the bottom of:
https://coachmenrv.com/travel-trailers/apex-ultra-lite


I'm definitely gonna get the Off Grid package. Comparing similar model MSRPs with and without it it appears to MSRP for ~$1k. The bigger fan will be nice, especially when loading before travel and just needing to vent the place. Sure I could DIY but that would require cutting into my new roof.


I swear I should just be a coachman salesman. Sucks being an information geek and having to pry around for all this stuff. Guess they expect you to lean on their dealers though. Who knows. Their website should have more info IMO with all the details.

Thank you for this post, you really helped me narrow my search for what I really want. :beer:
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:37 AM   #11
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Just FYI, the off-grid package removes the solar plug on the side of the body, and the spare tire is still on a steel wheel.
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The new kitchen surface layout is new for late production 2020 models that were built 9-2019 or after according to the RV Nerd himself, Josh @ Haylett RV. That's why you're seeing both styles of kitchen counters even though they are both "2020" models.

The Outfitter package adds:
Aluminum rims with off road tires, a toy lock, and a bike rack:
https://coachmenrv.com/brochures/202...kageposter.pdf


The Off Grid package adds:
2x 20lb propane tanks with cover, high volume vent fan, solar prep with a roof panel, and a shower water saver:
https://coachmenrv.com/brochures/202...kageposter.pdf


Those links are found @ the bottom of:
https://coachmenrv.com/travel-trailers/apex-ultra-lite


I'm definitely gonna get the Off Grid package. Comparing similar model MSRPs with and without it it appears to MSRP for ~$1k. The bigger fan will be nice, especially when loading before travel and just needing to vent the place. Sure I could DIY but that would require cutting into my new roof.


I swear I should just be a coachman salesman. Sucks being an information geek and having to pry around for all this stuff. Guess they expect you to lean on their dealers though. Who knows. Their website should have more info IMO with all the details.
You can change your fan without opening up the roof. I just installed this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks! Well look into the fan for the bathroom. Its so small and i dont want humidity to affect the shower walls anymore then it will. Considering a surround for it
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Thanks! Well look into the fan for the bathroom. Its so small and i dont want humidity to affect the shower walls anymore then it will. Considering a surround for it
For now we left the bathroom one alone. Its small but it does seem to work getting the steam out. I changed the one by the stove. I hope to get a lot of heat out when loading and arriving.
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