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Old 05-02-2020, 07:16 AM   #41
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Hmmm, Ben when we emailed him about the lack of insulation (among other issues) said we could add more insulation. I never realized how little there was. We have yet to take off our trim to see how bad it is for us. I would assume similar...

Am i seeing that right about 1 inch of insulation?!?

It's about 1 1/2 inch. It's not the insulation I'm concerned, it's the moisture migration and entrapment that will be the detriment, mold and mildew.



This pic's speak for itself. The first one is taken at the right vertical, sticking my hand into and behind the garnish. The second is my hand reaching into the upper section of the wall-fiberglass cap.
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Old 05-02-2020, 07:28 AM   #42
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This is what I received from FR...

If the window bezel is removed you can see a whole lot more and the addition of extra fiberglass insulation installed with a yardstick or alike can insulate the whole front wall better and decrease the cool that you feel coming from around the window bezel. The key is to not see the insulation through the front glass.

The key is a "vapor barrier", not visual barrier.
One of the symptoms that alerted me was I observed the insulation flecks that had been released after we towed the trailer to the camp site. The surfaces were all wiped down before we left home. At camp we saw the fine white "powder" that settled on the black stove cover.


The pic show a a 1 1/4 inch gap at the bottom, between the garnish and window. The white material at the middle of the pic is the fiberglass cap.
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Old 05-04-2020, 05:18 PM   #43
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Similar issue we are adding a gasket and insulation
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Old 05-04-2020, 06:15 PM   #44
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Old 05-04-2020, 06:45 PM   #45
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Man when I saw the windshield in the front cap I thought that really looks nice, but then wondered what kind of problems there could be?

Glad I have an older model without the window. Hope you guys get your problem(s) resolved......
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:01 PM   #46
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Man when I saw the windshield in the front cap I thought that really looks nice, but then wondered what kind of problems there could be?



Glad I have an older model without the window. Hope you guys get your problem(s) resolved......


We hope so too! We have two little heaters running so well see how the temp holds up in there.

Dont get me wrong its nice to be able to look out and see. But, it definitely a common complaint mainly because not enough insulation is added.
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Old 05-04-2020, 08:49 PM   #47
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Similar issue we are adding a gasket and insulation[/QUOTE]


Around your inner wall there was bracing for adding rigidity to the inner wall.


The trapped moisture is the issue. Yes I will add insulation, the question is what type of material and how to install the vapor barrier.
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Similar issue we are adding a gasket and insulation

Around your inner wall there was bracing for adding rigidity to the inner wall.


The trapped moisture is the issue. Yes I will add insulation, the question is what type of material and how to install the vapor barrier.[/QUOTE]


The insulation was standard household fiberglass insulation from the hardware store. Doppleganger purchased a roll and cut strips and pushed them in with his hand reaching as far as possible back. We were able to get two strips inserted on both sides plus cut a few more strips for above and below the window.

As for the gasket (doesnt cover completely) but it does help. When the trim was taken off the 3m adheasive was applied and cut that is on the gasket. Then when done filling up the insulation just screwed back in the trim piece and made sure the gasket was inside the frame as much as possible.
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Old 05-07-2020, 10:49 AM   #49
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Adding the insulation made a good difference in the temp inside the trailer. Our 187RB, using 2 250 watt (little) heaters yesterday it was 61 inside and outside it was about 36 degrees. So yay! Note there was some fogging up of the window overnight because of us sleeping. But, easily remedied and not a big deal. Highly suggest similar to others. Iíd rather Coachman address the issue but seeing as its catch up time for them since the factory was closed. I donít wanna loose the trailer to fix the problem.
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